TheRealMcCoy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Deadpulse said: The Jags have a better one and they were handled well False Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Deadpulse said: The Jags have a better one and they were handled well Eagles have better depth and better pass rushing interior rushers. Campbell is really good but Darius and their other guys are just run stuffers. Eagles can get that inside push which can frustrate Brady. But we got two weeks to obnoxiously break this down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Eagles have better depth and better pass rushing interior rushers. Not to mention Brandon Graham is definitely better than any edge rusher the Jags have. Edit: Do we consider Campbell an edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Not to mention Brandon Graham is definitely better than any edge rusher the Jags have. Really? Because Calais Campbell had 5 more sacks and Yannick Ngakoue had 3.5 more. Calais had 2 less TFL but was more active in the run game as whole. Yannick also had 11 to BG's 16. I would place say Campbell clearly had a better year and Yannick had a comparable one. Hell even Malik Jackson, their interior rush threat, only had half a sack less than Graham. Throw in Fowler to that mix and they provide a much more prevalent pass rush threat than Graham and Cox do. This isnt to say that your defense is not good, they are great. Jacksonville had a next level pass rush however, and no one else compares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Graham did have 2 sacks the last time he faced the Pats. But that was Gooch's OL, not Scar's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Deadpulse said: Really? Because Calais Campbell had 5 more sacks and Yannick Ngakoue had 3.5 more. Calais had 2 less TFL but was more active in the run game as whole. Yannick also had 11 to BG's 16. I would place say Campbell clearly had a better year and Yannick had a comparable one. Hell even Malik Jackson, their interior rush threat, only had half a sack less than Graham. Throw in Fowler to that mix and they provide a much more prevalent pass rush threat than Graham and Cox do. This isnt to say that your defense is not good, they are great. Jacksonville had a next level pass rush however, and no one else compares. Sacks aren't the only way to judge a player. He gets a ton of pressure and is a beast against the run. Not saying Ngakoue isn't good, because he certainly is, but he isn't as dominant as Graham is yet. Campbell had a beast season, but I still think Cox is just as good. As for the unit as a whole I'm not sure how you can say no one else compares considering we got the most pressure by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Starless said: Graham did have 2 sacks the last time he faced the Pats. But that was Gooch's OL, not Scar's. Your tackles seem to be playing better. I still can't remember the name of the one opposite Solder though... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, TheRealMcCoy said: Your tackles seem to be playing better. I still can't remember the name of the one opposite Solder though... lol. It's 2 guys - Fleming and Waddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Starless said: It's 2 guys - Fleming and Waddle. Fleming is the starter, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Sacks aren't the only way to judge a player. He gets a ton of pressure and is a beast against the run. Not saying Ngakoue isn't good, because he certainly is, but he isn't as dominant as Graham is yet. Campbell had a beast season, but I still think Cox is just as good. As for the unit as a whole I'm not sure how you can say no one else compares considering we got the most pressure by far. Not sure I am all that concerned with pressures, as Brady thrives under it. QB hits and sacks are the stats to measure on the pass rush success against the patriots. Do you have that number? The thing that scares me more is the Eagles run defense, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Deadpulse said: Not sure I am all that concerned with pressures, as Brady thrives under it. QB hits and sacks are the stats to measure on the pass rush success against the patriots. Do you have that number? The thing that scares me more is the Eagles run defense, honestly. I know we weren't a top team in sacks. Not sure about hits though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: I know we weren't a top team in sacks. Not sure about hits though. Couldnt find the number myself. Pressure means little if you can't knock Brady on his back. He moves in the pocket like he is on ice skates unless he gets contacted. Then he crumbles like a dried out piece of TP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Deadpulse said: Couldnt find the number myself. Pressure means little if you can't knock Brady on his back. He moves in the pocket like he is on ice skates unless he gets contacted. Then he crumbles like a dried out piece of TP. I'm well aware of how good Brady is at maneuvering in the pocket lol Anyways I'm looking forward to a good game. Belichick and Pederson gonna be playing 4D chess out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 59 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Fleming is the starter, right? nope. guy on IR named marcus cannon. waddle is 2nd string, fleming, last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRalph Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Your tackles seem to be playing better. I still can't remember the name of the one opposite Solder though... lol. Nor can we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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