SemperFeist Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Watch Paton take over for Spielman in 2 or 3 years, and hire Stefanski to replace Zimmer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Watch Paton take over for Spielman in 2 or 3 years, and hire Stefanski to replace Zimmer. Have any of the Browns retreads been good elsewhere once fired? Besides Belichick of course. I feel like if you’re fired by Cleveland you’re baaically done as a head coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Have any of the Browns retreads been good elsewhere once fired? Besides Belichick of course. I feel like if you’re fired by Cleveland you’re baaically done as a head coach. How many of them have been as young as Stefanski? I think that’s more of a factor than simply being hired by Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 16 hours ago, vikingsrule said: Have any of the Browns retreads been good elsewhere once fired? Besides Belichick of course. I feel like if you’re fired by Cleveland you’re baaically done as a head coach. You said "good", but Shurmur has been successful as a OC. As HC he was ineffective with the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: You said "good", but Shurmur has been successful as a OC. As HC he was ineffective with the Giants. I meant success as a HC in a second stint. Shurmur again failed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: I meant success as a HC in a second stint. Shurmur again failed. The biggest difference, and the reason I don’t believe Stefanski will fail, is that so many coaches have been hired purely based on their Xs and Os. But it takes a lot more than that to be a successful head coach. Stefanski reminds me of John Harbaugh. A great communicator and organizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The Vikings were plenty represented in the 2020 Pro Bowl, having eight players in the game. Those players were Kirk Cousins, Dalvin Cook, Harrison Smith, C.J. Ham, Xavier Rhodes, Everson Griffen, Danielle Hunter and Eric Kendricks. A quick rundown: In his second Pro Bowl game, Cousins led all NFC passers, throwing for 181 yards, two touchdowns and an interception. Running back Dalvin Cook ran three times for 17 yards. Nothing too wild. Rhodes had four tackles, Kendricks had six and Griffen had one. Smith had three tackles, and probably had the highlight of the game for the Vikings. He picked off Deshaun Watson at the NFC’s 3-yard line. He returned it 36 yards before lateralling it to big man Fletcher Cox who ran another 61 yards for the touchdown. Take a look at the play here: https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/26/vikings-recap-in-2020-pro-bowl/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmonite26 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 9:49 AM, vikingsrule said: I meant success as a HC in a second stint. Shurmur again failed. I have no idea if he's a good HC or not, but he's been set up to fail in both spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperborean Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) On 1/25/2020 at 8:06 AM, SteelKing728 said: You said "good", but Shurmur has been successful as a OC. As HC he was ineffective with the Giants. Don't know why they were in such a hurry to move on from Shurmur. What did they expect him to do with that roster in two seasons? The last one with a rookie QB. Give the guy a little time. Edited January 27, 2020 by Hyperborean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 8:06 AM, SteelKing728 said: You said "good", but Shurmur has been successful as a OC. As HC he was ineffective with the Giants. Other than Barkley, who did Shumar have that could make a difference on offense in NY? The talent gap between the Giants and the rest of the NFC East was pretty stunning this past season, even as the best team in the division went 8-8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 12 hours ago, Dolmonite26 said: I have no idea if he's a good HC or not, but he's been set up to fail in both spots. I agree. He's had virtually no chance in either situation. However, he would have needed to be a miracle worker to ever get a third chance, which is not likely. I don't blame him for taking the Giants job, because that typically has been a fairly stable organization, up until recently. Ever since Gettleman came back, it's been a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The only way that Shurmur will ever get another HC job is if he inherits a team, like the Broncos. If he gets the offense humming, he could probably shift to the HC spot if Fangio were to retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) I plan on watching the Pro Bowl later, but did Danielle Hunter not play? He doesn't have any stats. Edited January 27, 2020 by SteelKing728 I just figured he would since OLB can't blitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said: I plan on watching the Pro Bowl later, but did Danielle Hunter not play? He doesn't have any stats. He played. They didn't tackle instead just put their hands on the guy and stopped him from running. Should just be changed to a flag football game. Would be far more exciting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 In addition to the announcement in the other thread of Patterson/Adam Zimmer as co-DCs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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