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42 minutes ago, vike daddy said:

so if we lose a game, can we just refuse to concedeĀ and continue to insist we won? regardless of what the scoreboard says?

asking for a friend.

Your opponent and their bandwagon of cheerleaders could do the equally ridiculous act of declaring that they are the "winner-elects" before the challenge is even finished.

Thankfully, neither thing ever ever ever happens in reality, especially outside of football.

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2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

Your opponent and their bandwagon of cheerleaders could do the equally ridiculous act of declaring that they are the "winner-elects" before the challenge is even finished.

Thankfully, neither thing ever ever ever happens in reality, especially outside of football.

Well if you're challenging that you actually completed the pass because some guy in the upper deck with season tickets caught the football and claimsĀ that he is actually part of the team and in bounds, then...sure, I guess technically that's a challenge. You're going to lose that one every single time, but it's a challenge.Ā 

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4 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

Your opponent and their bandwagon of cheerleaders could do the equally ridiculous act of declaring that they are the "winner-elects" before the challenge is even finished.

first of all, the bandwagon of cheerleaders you refer to are American football fans, and they have every right to cheer during and after the game. there is noĀ 
"singularly proper" time for them to do so. games played in the past were all decided the same way.

as to was thisĀ game finished...? oh yes, very much so it was. every credible sportscaster and expert sports historian certainly saw it that way. the score never changed, from the end of the game until now, regardless of all the coach's challenges attempted and all the replays reviewed.

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1 hour ago, vike daddy said:

first of all, the bandwagon of cheerleaders you refer to are American football fans, and they have every right to cheer during and after the game. there is noĀ 
"singularly proper" time for them to do so. games played in the past were all decided the same way.

as to was thisĀ game finished...? oh yes, very much so it was. every credible sportscaster and expert sports historian certainly saw it that way. the score never changed, from the end of the game until now, regardless of all the coach's challenges attempted and all the replays reviewed.

The game will be reviewed by the highest level of referees. The referees will issue a fair result to the game and award its champion.

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29 minutes ago, TENINCH said:

We'll see

Actually, and coming from a guy who knows a thing or two about appellate review, not one of the replay challenges has a chance of being overturned. There are multiple points of contact showing that the receiver landed in bounds with possession. The head referee has already stated that both feet and a hand landed in bounds. So even if the replay official acknowledges that one hand landed out of bounds, it doesnā€™t undo the other three points of contact. Succinctly stated, Coach Tubberville has wasted his challenges and the viewersā€™ time. Itā€™s over.Ā 

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Again, I believe we should wait until every replay and challenge has been decided on until we actually announce the winner of the game, to be fair.

I think a similar situation (although not entirely due to rule changes) happened in a 2000 game. Different team and players, obviously. I think it amount to what would have been 32 quarters of football being played before a decision was made!

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8 hours ago, wcblack34 said:

Actually, and coming from a guy who knows a thing or two about appellate review, not one of the replay challenges has a chance of being overturned. There are multiple points of contact showing that the receiver landed in bounds with possession. The head referee has already stated that both feet and a hand landed in bounds. So even if the replay official acknowledges that one hand landed out of bounds, it doesnā€™t undo the other three points of contact. Succinctly stated, Coach Tubberville has wasted his challenges and the viewersā€™ time. Itā€™s over.Ā 

Honestly I think both teams suck and have no interest in seeing either one win.

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3 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

Again, I believe we should wait until every replay and challenge has been decided on until we actually announce the winner of the game, to be fair.

welllll...a game played in Georgia has now been fully reviewed at the request of the losing team. every minute of the game was looked over and the result was found to be the same, the other team won.

so what has the losing team now done? requested a THIRD complete review of the game!

so according to your request that the games be fully reviewed before a winner is officially announced, now that they have (or at least the Georgia game) and the results have not changed and the same teams won and lost, are you prepared to say that game is over, at least?

because if the Georgia game is over, and the Penn game is over, then the Championship has been decided.

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3 hours ago, SteelKing728 said:

I think a similar situation (although not entirely due to rule changes) happened in a 2000 game. Different team and players, obviously. I think it amount to what would have been 32 quarters of football being played before a decision was made!

let's go to Reality School of the 2000 Championship, maybe you can learn the facts here...

in 2000, the Championship was extreeeeeeemly close, less than a one point win, if that's even possible, in the Florida game. so challenges to that game's outcome could have realistically changed the entire outcome of the entire Championship. so they HAD to be reviewed, and they were.

in 2016, the Championship result was very different, one team prevailed and won in somethingĀ between a blowout and a very convincing win. so the challenges to petty individual plays, even if they are successful which so far they have not been, (over 30 of them have been thrown out by various reviewing Commissioners), will not result in enough points being reduced to change the winning and losing teams. this is fact, not opinion. it's about points, that's how you win games.

the team with more points wins. at some point the Losers (and you know how rarely i capitalize here...) have to at least pretend to care about good sportsmanship and the rules of how games are played and have always been played, and just let the rest of the sports world move on. many, many fans of the losing team have said this too.

it's the way of American football. there's always a loser unfortunately, and one has been declared. multiple times now.

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