viking Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, ArcticNorseman said: How bout we pay JJ and not a guy who's . . . Not worth his contract value . . . Lost it . . . Self-centered beyond control . . . ???? Draft talented rookies that make teams respect their game too. Nuk is talented and a premier reciever in the NFL. You win rings by stacking talent. Pay JJ and have Nuk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, viking said: Nuk is talented and a premier reciever in the NFL. You win rings by stacking talent. Pay JJ and have Nuk? Defense, defense, defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticNorseman Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, viking said: Nuk is talented and a premier reciever in the NFL. You win rings by stacking talent. Pay JJ and have Nuk? Just to confirm, you are talking about DeAndre Hopkins, correct? His 2023 base salary is $19.5M, huge cap hit and he carries $30+M in dead money the next two years. He hasn't played a full season in three years. He's 31 in 2023. No team in their right mind will carry WRs counting $40M or even $50+M against the cap. Like many of us have been saying . . . Get the new DC hired, assess and beef up the D. Let's hear it again, "What wins championships?" Edited January 29, 2023 by ArcticNorseman Verbology 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Hopkins is past his prime, not worth the contract he has, and would take precious salary cap space away from repairing the defense. AND he’d cost draft picks. Hell no. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: Hopkins is past his prime, not worth the contract he has, and would take precious salary cap space away from repairing the defense. AND he’d cost draft picks. Hell no. shiny new Christmas presents are always more attractive than the savings bond Grandma buys you.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Lot of vikings fans don't wanna win I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 50 minutes ago, ArcticNorseman said: Just to confirm, you are talking about DeAndre Hopkins, correct? His 2023 base salary is $19.5M, huge cap hit and he carries $30+M in dead money the next two years. He hasn't played a full season in three years. He's 31 in 2023. No team in their right mind will carry WRs counting $40M or even $50+M against the cap. Like many of us have been saying . . . Get the new DC hired, assess and beef up the D. Let's hear it again, "What wins championships?" Have you thought the Cards might be willing to eat some cap for picks and move on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 51 minutes ago, ArcticNorseman said: Like many of us have been saying . . . Get the new DC hired, assess and beef up the D. Let's hear it again, "What wins championships?" Elite QB play but we don't have that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, viking said: Elite QB play but we don't have that either as you would say, blah blah blah.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, viking said: Elite QB play but we don't have that either Every thread now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Just now, PrplChilPill said: Every thread now? You asked what wins championships? It's elite QB play. Kirk is a good QB easily a step below elite and we will never win a ring with him at the helm. KOC and KAM shouldn't tie themselves to Kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: Every thread now? cyber soapboxers go for quantity, not quality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, viking said: You asked what wins championships? It's elite QB play. Kirk is a good QB easily a step below elite and we will never win a ring with him at the helm. KOC and KAM shouldn't tie themselves to Kirk I did no such thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, vike daddy said: cyber soapboxers go for quantity, not quality. Wannabe mod with a personal attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticNorseman Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, viking said: Have you thought the Cards might be willing to eat some cap for picks and move on? Sure, I thought about that when I read your post. But, like so many in the social media realm, you didn't provide any inkling of what that type of deal would look like. I, for one, can't imagine the Cards eating even 50% of Hopkins salary or cap hit for 2023, much less two years. If the Cards want a team to take the cash burden, it should only run a 6th or 7th rd pick. Even then, are the Vikes in position to pay that? No, the team really isn't. On your spouted opinion of elite QB play? Yes, elite QBs tend to help a team win games. When it comes to winning Super Bowls what's your list of elite QBs? Oh, please break your list down between guys whove won it vs those who played but lost. For example was Tom Brady less elite than Eli Manning? What happened when Trent Diller led his team. Was Dan Marino not elite while Kurt Warner is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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