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9 hours ago, ny92jefferis said:

Question Nick.

Didn't he serve his suspension last season?  He isn't doing time this year is he?

Correct. He's not suspended this year. One more failed test will have him suspended for a year though. I would be worried about committing a long term deal to him because of his health issues as well. He battled back to get on the field but you gave him quite a bit of money! Much more than I would have, especially being a backup tackle.

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Love what you have done @NickChowaniec!

Beane should be worried that you're gunning for his job. 

I am pro trading up for Mayfield (obviously) especially with having two 3rds again and now three 5ths. 

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2 hours ago, NickChowaniec said:

Correct. He's not suspended this year. One more failed test will have him suspended for a year though. I would be worried about committing a long term deal to him because of his health issues as well. He battled back to get on the field but you gave him quite a bit of money! Much more than I would have, especially being a backup tackle.

crap...obviously didn't do my homework.  Read a few links that talked him up as well as another giants fan mentioned him in the war room and took it at face value.  Giants line was so bad a last year that even if he's suspended sitting on his sofa next year, its better than what we currently had...haha.

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27 minutes ago, Trentwannabe said:

Love what you have done @NickChowaniec!

Beane should be worried that you're gunning for his job. 

I am pro trading up for Mayfield (obviously) especially with having two 3rds again and now three 5ths. 

Making a move from 18 to 8/9/10 will be less costly, so I think it's a smart move. Have 3 trade partners lined up already when the time comes.

I know you love Mayfield and have your vote. I just need to convince myself between now and the draft.

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5 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said:

crap...obviously didn't do my homework.  Read a few links that talked him up as well as another giants fan mentioned him in the war room and took it at face value.  Giants line was so bad a last year that even if he's suspended sitting on his sofa next year, its better than what we currently had...haha.

If he can stay healthy he's a serviceable tackle. You paid more than serviceable money though haha. Options in FA are really limited this year at the position, so I understand why you went gunning for someone.

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4 minutes ago, NickChowaniec said:

If he can stay healthy he's a serviceable tackle. You paid more than serviceable money though haha. Options in FA are really limited this year at the position, so I understand why you went gunning for someone.

After further reading, I hate myself...lol

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12 hours ago, NickChowaniec said:

Made a significant bid on Breshaud Breeland, CB... no luck. Same for LB Christian Jones who I was looking to provide good depth. 

Won a bid on Virgil Green, TE. 4 years, 14.25 mil deal. Good depth, and with Clay always hurt he could prove valuable.

The Giants gave Seantrel Henderson a 5 year, 29 million dollar deal O.o

So who is available in free agency that we can use some of this money on?

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Let me know guys of interest. I have a few offers in mind, Anthony Hitchens is one. Also have a 1 year offer on Kyle Williams (resign). 

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6662 - Terrance Mitchell - CB
4429 - Tramaine Brock - CB
3098 - Tramon Williams - CB
7619 - Travis Carrie - CB
6618 - Walt Aikens - CB
1790 - William Gay - CB
 
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3813 - Tank Carder - ILB
3406 - Will Compton - ILB
 
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1818 - Zane Beadles - LG
 
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6398 - Cornelius Lucas - LT
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4627 - Will Beatty - LT
 
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4099 - Orleans Darkwa - RB
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3263 - Tom Compton - RG
6948 - Zac Kerin - RG
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2746 - Breno Giacomini - RT
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1307 - Menelik Watson - RT
6431 - Michael Ola - RT
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7300 - Vinston Painter - RT
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0388 - Colin Jones - S
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2636 - Darius Butler - S
8488 - Doug Middleton - S
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4715 - Jairus Byrd - S
6442 - Jaylen Watkins - S
8895 - Jordan Simone - S
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6563 - Keith McGill - S
3219 - Kemal Ishmael - S
3329 - Michael Thomas - S
1330 - Mike Mitchell - S
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8367 - Rontez Miles - S
5584 - Shamarko Thomas - S
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1646 - Tavon Austin - WR
1695 - Torrey Smith - WR
8950 - Travis Rudolph - WR
9115 - Tyler Gaffney - WR

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Some names that stick out to me Anthony Hictchens, Jerik McKinnon, Orleans Darkwa, Albert Wilson, Allen Hurns, David Amerson, Case Keenum, Davon House, Jeremy Lane, Mark Herzlich, Akeem Ayers, Courtney Upshaw, Lamarr Houston. We have 45 million left so I say

I think we should put in offers for Hitchens, Hurns, Darkwa and Lane. We should be able to get all  4 of those players and still have a ton of cap room.

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Only dilemma is the contracts require a specific APY (average per year offer) amount. It goes down with each round of FA. So while some of those names are definitely on my list also, the dollar amount scares me for some.

Here are the APYs for the guys you mentioned, let me know what you think.

Anthony Hitchens - 6.5 mil APY

Jerick McKinnon - 6.0 mil APY

Orleans Darkwa - 900k APY

Albert Wilson - 7.8 mil APY

Allen Hurns - 9.8 mil APY

Case Keenum - 15.9 mil APY

Davon House - 2.4 mil APY

Jeremy Lane - 6.3 mil APY

Mark Herzlich - 915k APY

Akeem Ayers - 1.5 mil APY

Courtney Upshaw - 995k APY

Lamarr Houston - 915k APY

@marshawn lynch

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2 minutes ago, NickChowaniec said:

Only dilemma is the contracts require a specific APY (average per year offer) amount. It goes down with each round of FA. So while some of those names are definitely on my list also, the dollar amount scares me for some.

Here are the APYs for the guys you mentioned, let me know what you think.

Anthony Hitchens - 6.5 mil APY

Jerick McKinnon - 6.0 mil APY

Orleans Darkwa - 900k APY

Albert Wilson - 7.8 mil APY

Allen Hurns - 9.8 mil APY

Case Keenum - 15.9 mil APY

Davon House - 2.4 mil APY

Jeremy Lane - 6.3 mil APY

Mark Herzlich - 915k APY

Akeem Ayers - 1.5 mil APY

Courtney Upshaw - 995k APY

Lamarr Houston - 915k APY

@marshawn lynch

Well at those prices Darkwa is a no brainer. He is better than McKinnon and 5 million a year cheaper. I'd offer Darkwa about 4 a year. 

Between House and Lane might as well try for House instead. Similar player but a lot cheaper.

Houston at that price is a no brainer for me.

Hitchens is right where I figured he would be.

Hurns is a bit pricey. But with Darkwa, House and Houston coming so cheap I wouldn't mind overspending a bit. Especially with all the cap room we have. The more free agents we sign the better I feel about trading draft picks to move up into the top 10 for a QB. Gotta fill some spots so we don't need the draft picks to fill em.

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1 hour ago, NickChowaniec said:

Making a move from 18 to 8/9/10 will be less costly, so I think it's a smart move. Have 3 trade partners lined up already when the time comes.

I know you love Mayfield and have your vote. I just need to convince myself between now and the draft.

I think that the problem you are going to have is that Mayfield is the FF darling this year. I don't think that he makes it to the 8-10 range. I think in that range, you're probably looking at Josh Allen, whom everyone on FF hates (except for me apparently lol). 

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30 minutes ago, marshawn lynch said:

Well at those prices Darkwa is a no brainer. He is better than McKinnon and 5 million a year cheaper. I'd offer Darkwa about 4 a year. 

Between House and Lane might as well try for House instead. Similar player but a lot cheaper.

Houston at that price is a no brainer for me.

Hitchens is right where I figured he would be.

Hurns is a bit pricey. But with Darkwa, House and Houston coming so cheap I wouldn't mind overspending a bit. Especially with all the cap room we have. The more free agents we sign the better I feel about trading draft picks to move up into the top 10 for a QB. Gotta fill some spots so we don't need the draft picks to fill em.

Agree with Darkwa v McKinnon. Darkwa is a bit underappreciated. I'd offer him before I offered McKinnon (I said in my own war room thread that the latter is just too over priced at this point for what he does). 

Hitchens I almost bid on last round, but thought in the end he was still a tad over priced. Agree that now at 6.5, he's right around what I figure he will get in real life.

 

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1 hour ago, Forge said:

Agree with Darkwa v McKinnon. Darkwa is a bit underappreciated. I'd offer him before I offered McKinnon (I said in my own war room thread that the latter is just too over priced at this point for what he does). 

Hitchens I almost bid on last round, but thought in the end he was still a tad over priced. Agree that now at 6.5, he's right around what I figure he will get in real life.

 

Well don't go bidding on our guys now Mr. Money Bags ^_^

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