Broncofan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I’m glad they are revisiting this but not hopeful they will change the rule to something that can be enforced with transparency and clarity. But at least they’re looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles101 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 O whooray. Because everytime the change it definitely has gotten better and not more murky and terrible. It needs to just be at the discretion of the ref basically. Have the general rule but give the ref some leeway since there isnt a way to make clear cut rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcvoodoo Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, eagles101 said: O whooray. Because everytime the change it definitely has gotten better and not more murky and terrible. It needs to just be at the discretion of the ref basically. Have the general rule but give the ref some leeway since there isnt a way to make clear cut rules. Agreed, they need to redo the rule. However, I think making it the discretion of the individual ref would invite even more controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I think the biggest thing is that they need to lock down a number of specifics for reviews so that the reviews are actually consistent. Doing so will help keep fans from being as upset on calls if they calls are actually consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Interesting news. More consistency in what is a catch and what is not a catch is very sorely needed. Let's hope that's what comes out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Possession and 2 feet. Pretty simple iyam Edit: By possession I mean having a clear grasp of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianlewis16 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 When it's changed I can only assume they are retrospectively going to review every catch ever made and adjust the stats accordingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles101 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 28 minutes ago, jcvoodoo said: Agreed, they need to redo the rule. However, I think making it the discretion of the individual ref would invite even more controversy. O it definitely will. He problem is the nfl caring what facebook warriors complain about. Hey should focus on making the game smoother and having reviews for every catch trying to force fit rules into every catch makes the game hard to watch. They shoud let the refs have more leeway so they can see he difference between what these dumb precision rules say and the calvin johnson catch/no catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It will also help if they review their rules for conclusive data to overturn the ruling on the field. Not opinion. Not I think this is what happen. What is on tape has got to be definitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, jebrick said: It will also help if they review their rules for conclusive data to overturn the ruling on the field. Not opinion. Not I think this is what happen. What is on tape has got to be definitive. Right, only overturn the call on the field if the evidence is conclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLambert58 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 A catch is possession and a football move. Period. Dez Bryant: Catch Jesse James: Catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 The problem is that the rule as it is written can’t even be applied on review consistently. Hopefully any rule that involves reviewable plays has 3 elements: 1. It makes sense. 2. It’s consistent with the other rules of the game. 3. It can be clearly applied on review. The problem with the current rule IMO is that it does not meet #2 or #3. #2 isn’t met because if the player is a runner then extending the ball is very clearly a deliberate act. To exclude it as a football act is just counter to how players act on the field. #3 (consistent application on review) isn’t being met not just this year but in years gone by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, JLambert58 said: A catch is possession and a football move. Period. Dez Bryant: Catch Jesse James: Catch Under the current rule neither is considered a football move. Yet it’s clearly viewed as that when they are a runner (ball dead if you cross end zone by extending ball - remember that Dez didn’t cross the EZ lone). FWIW I agree with you on the conclusion but the issue is how the rules define a football move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, dtait93 said: Possession and 2 feet. Pretty simple iyam Edit: By possession I mean having a clear grasp of the ball I'm game for this - keep it short and simple. If at any point you have clear grasp and two feet, it's a catch. If you're on the way down and the ball jostles around a bit, still a catch. If you have clear grasp on your feet but you hit the ground and roll around and the ball spurts out, still a catch (maybe a fumble). Keep it simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 28 minutes ago, EliteTexan80 said: I'm game for this - keep it short and simple. If at any point you have clear grasp and two feet, it's a catch. If you're on the way down and the ball jostles around a bit, still a catch. If you have clear grasp on your feet but you hit the ground and roll around and the ball spurts out, still a catch (maybe a fumble). Keep it simple. Yep, not complicated at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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