Iamcanadian Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Could depend on where Cousins ends up, if it is the Jets or Denver, they both could be tough and watch out for the Titans as Mariota could have a real breakout season. Other than that, Oakland, Indy, if Luck ever returns to form, and possibly Houston could all be threats!!! If you are solid at QB, you always remain a serious threat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biletnikoff Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, lancerman said: Rams have had one up year. No idea how Jimmy is going to develop either. They are promising, but last year everyone would have said the Raiders were a sure lock to run the AFC Rams will be good for the next few years obviously. The new Stadium,move and new coach, major market, guarantee that with no doubt. AFC the rotation will be back to Colts,Denver,Pitt,Raiders,Ravens..as historically usual. ( this is where some doofus fan says the Raiders have been bad for a while...yeah, but theyll move and be relevant again. Both them and the Rams have just been asleep for 15 years while Pats had their time one of those teams will be in a conference championship game a majority of the time as they have been for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I dont think we'll see dominance by one team. If the Jags go get Cousins or an above average QB, they'd be my pick to dominate for awhile tho. Texans need an o-line and a secondary. Raiders need a defense and Chucky's team has yet to be seen. Steelers window with Ben (and possibly Bell) looks to be closing. Titans playing it risky with an inexperienced head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 The Jaguars get a good QB (Maybe Cousins or develop 1 through the draft) they're going to be a team to watch. To me they're a QB away from going to a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Doubt there will be "dominance". Probably some teams with great 2-4 year stretches (like the Manning Broncos) or teams who are usually playoff contenders and make the occasional Super Bowl (recent Steelers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 hours ago, biletnikoff said: Rams will be good for the next few years obviously. The new Stadium,move and new coach, major market, guarantee that with no doubt. AFC the rotation will be back to Colts,Denver,Pitt,Raiders,Ravens..as historically usual. ( this is where some doofus fan says the Raiders have been bad for a while...yeah, but theyll move and be relevant again. Both them and the Rams have just been asleep for 15 years while Pats had their time one of those teams will be in a conference championship game a majority of the time as they have been for years. I think you severely overrate the historical significance of certain teams because they were in a lot of playoffs early. The Ravens went to two Super Bowls in their entire history and the Ray Lewis was on both of them. The Colts went to two Super Bowls from 68-70 and another two over 30 years later from 06-09. That's not historical dominance. The Broncos went to one in the 70's, had their 80's run literally ten years later, and then the two in the 90's another decade after that before a 15 year period before 13 and 15. The Raiders went to the second Super Bowl then one in the 70's and two in the 80's then 20 years later went in 02 and haven't been back since. Compare that to the Patriots. 1 in the 80. A decade later one in the 90's then about 4 years later they started a run where they went to 4 in the 2000's, and then about 3 years later they started a run where they went to 4 in the 2010's. No team has gone to more than 4 in a decade and the Patriots did it twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biletnikoff Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, lancerman said: I think you severely overrate the historical significance of certain teams because they were in a lot of playoffs early. The Ravens went to two Super Bowls in their entire history and the Ray Lewis was on both of them. The Colts went to two Super Bowls from 68-70 and another two over 30 years later from 06-09. That's not historical dominance. The Broncos went to one in the 70's, had their 80's run literally ten years later, and then the two in the 90's another decade after that before a 15 year period before 13 and 15. The Raiders went to the second Super Bowl then one in the 70's and two in the 80's then 20 years later went in 02 and haven't been back since. Compare that to the Patriots. 1 in the 80. A decade later one in the 90's then about 4 years later they started a run where they went to 4 in the 2000's, and then about 3 years later they started a run where they went to 4 in the 2010's. No team has gone to more than 4 in a decade and the Patriots did it twice. How can you over rate something that has always happened? Between 1946 and 57..the Browns went to 11 championships and won 7 of them. They won 4 in a row. The Pats are second place in the - things to be impressed by- department lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, biletnikoff said: How can you over rate something that has always happened? Between 1946 and 57..the Browns went to 11 championships and won 7 of them. They won 4 in a row. The Pats are second place in the - things to be impressed by- department lol Because like I demonstrated in my last post you make misleading statements about who had what success. The Browns had that run in two different leagues, one of which wasn't close to the NFL in that era. One league only had 8 teams the other only had 12. So on average they were playing in leagues about a third of the size of the modern NFL. Oh and that's the only time it's ever happened. Ever period. So how has it always happened? In 50 years no team has went to more than 8 championships in 52 years NO team has went to more than 8 Super Bowls outside of the Patriots. Belichick and Brady alone went to 8. The franchise in the last 32 years went to 10 which breaks the record. That's more than any team you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 The Jaguars are going to be good for a while. The team that aces the next two drafts will have the best team in the AFC, because I don't know if there's a superstar team outside of Jacksonville that's looming. Every other team with a great young QB seems to be on a team with massive holes, injured players, and aging overpaid veterans. I'm not sure any of these teams are going to be the next dynasty, but Jacksonville has the best opportunity to be that team. Ben and Brady are going to go bye-bye together (My freaking wet dream) and both the Patriots and Steelers will be out of their championship window for at least a few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 19 hours ago, lancerman said: 19 hours ago, Championshiporbust said: The Patriots represented the AFC in the Super Bowl under Bill Belichick and Tom Brady (2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2011, 2014, 2016, 2017) It is a dynasty. The Patriots dynasty. When the dynasty ends, if the dynasty ends, Who runs the AFC? I mean, I have no doubt in my mind that the Dynasty ends when Belichick retires (probably the same time Brady retires). But who knows, could still be 5 seasons at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 2:24 PM, lancerman said: Because like I demonstrated in my last post you make misleading statements about who had what success. The Browns had that run in two different leagues, one of which wasn't close to the NFL in that era. One league only had 8 teams the other only had 12. So on average they were playing in leagues about a third of the size of the modern NFL. Oh and that's the only time it's ever happened. Ever period. This makes a difference, why exactly? As for the Browns playing in two different leagues, I'm not getting your point. They played in the NFL. Quote So how has it always happened? In 50 years no team has went to more than 8 championships in 52 years NO team has went to more than 8 Super Bowls outside of the Patriots. Belichick and Brady alone went to 8. The franchise in the last 32 years went to 10 which breaks the record. That's more than any team you mentioned. I forgot that the NFL didn't exist prior to the Super Bowl. Silly me. But, if you're like me and you consider the league to almost be 100 years old (as the NFL, in fact, does), then you have to acknowledge the records from the league all the way back to its inception. Which includes the championships won prior to the championship game being dubbed the Super Bowl. With that in consideration, the Green Bay Packers say hello. In 40 years (from 1927-1967) they won 11 championships out of 15 times. And in 42 years, the Bears also greet you with 17 appearances in the title game (8 wins) between 1921 and 1963. You are incorrect though that no team has gone to more NFL Championships than the Pats in a 32 year period. The Bears went to 11 in only 21 years (1921-1942) winning 5 and then won their 6th the next year and won their 7th 3 years later in 1946. But if you're only talking about Super Bowls, that's great. Just realize that its still the Championship game for the NFL. We just now call it something different now (helps with marketing). And realize that the league didn't start the year your team entered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 2:46 PM, BleedTheClock said: The Jaguars are going to be good for a while. The team that aces the next two drafts will have the best team in the AFC, because I don't know if there's a superstar team outside of Jacksonville that's looming. Every other team with a great young QB seems to be on a team with massive holes, injured players, and aging overpaid veterans. I'm not sure any of these teams are going to be the next dynasty, but Jacksonville has the best opportunity to be that team. Ben and Brady are going to go bye-bye together (My freaking wet dream) and both the Patriots and Steelers will be out of their championship window for at least a few seasons. You never know how long the window could be. In 1991, if you had told me that the team that raged through the league and dominated pretty much everyone en route to a Super Bowl win, with a great Front Office and great owner, would hardly make it back to the playoffs the next 27 years and only win 2 playoff games in that span, with no championship appearances...I'd have asked you what you were smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biletnikoff Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 11:24 AM, lancerman said: Because like I demonstrated in my last post you make misleading statements about who had what success. The Browns had that run in two different leagues, one of which wasn't close to the NFL in that era. One league only had 8 teams the other only had 12. So on average they were playing in leagues about a third of the size of the modern NFL. Oh and that's the only time it's ever happened. Ever period. So how has it always happened? In 50 years no team has went to more than 8 championships in 52 years NO team has went to more than 8 Super Bowls outside of the Patriots. Belichick and Brady alone went to 8. The franchise in the last 32 years went to 10 which breaks the record. That's more than any team you mentioned. Lol it was pro ball. You would have no clue what the quality was. It is recognized and documented in pro ball history. The name of the league is irrelevant. And dig this..Belichick didn' go on his glory run till he coached on the Browns first. He had to be knighted by their juju. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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