BobbyBelt Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Good evening, Bills Mafia. I've been working on a project recently and just finished the Buffalo portion, which I thought might be of some interest to all of you. I’m charting the front offices, draft history, and athletic thresholds of all 32 NFL teams. Since Buffalo has almost an entirely new staff in the war room, I took what Brandon Beane did in Carolina and Buffalo, Joe Schoen did in Miami, and Marvin Allen did in Kansas City between 2014-2017. Then I averaged those out to get positional prototypes, and set minimum and apex thresholds for each position. If you’re at all interested in it, you can check out all of it in the link below, updated with Senior Bowl measurements against the thresholds (40 times are NFL Draft Scout estimates). No thresholds for centers of tackles, as there weren’t enough drafted to create a consensus (I need at least three picked for sample). I'll continue to update this as Pro Day and Combine data becomes available. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RR_u_ZqwC52noZFWkkRQR6JSP3CaABJq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBelt Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Oh, and here are the best Senior Bowl fits at each position when cross-referenced against Buffalo's thresholds... QB – Josh Allen RB – Kalen Ballage WR – James Washington TE – Mike Gesicki OG – Cole Madison EDGE – Chad Thomas DT – Greg Gilmore LB – Marquis Haynes CB – D’montre Wade S – Trayvon Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBelt Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 Hello again. Here is the description of the data that I recently wrote up to include in the reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 This is some really cool stuff. Appreciate you putting in the time to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I can see Allen as Buffalo weather suits a strong armed QB, similar to Jim Kelly, but the rest I seriously doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMountainGoat Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 31/01/2018 at 2:30 AM, BobbyBelt said: Oh, and here are the best Senior Bowl fits at each position when cross-referenced against Buffalo's thresholds... QB – Josh Allen RB – Kalen Ballage WR – James Washington TE – Mike Gesicki OG – Cole Madison EDGE – Chad Thomas DT – Greg Gilmore LB – Marquis Haynes CB – D’montre Wade S – Trayvon Henderson How can taking a guy who needs to sit behind a veteran for a couple of years be a good fit at QB when you don't have a veteran to sit behind nor have a coach with a record of QB development? Josh Allen is just about the WORST fit for the Bills at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBelt Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/10/2018 at 11:42 AM, BigMountainGoat said: How can taking a guy who needs to sit behind a veteran for a couple of years be a good fit at QB when you don't have a veteran to sit behind nor have a coach with a record of QB development? Josh Allen is just about the WORST fit for the Bills at QB These aren't scheme fits, these are the best fits for their athletic traits when cross-referenced against what Buffalo's staff has looked for at the position during their other stops. That's all, not saying it's a fit on anything else other than build/athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMountainGoat Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 hours ago, BobbyBelt said: These aren't scheme fits, these are the best fits for their athletic traits when cross-referenced against what Buffalo's staff has looked for at the position during their other stops. That's all, not saying it's a fit on anything else other than build/athleticism. McDermott has never drafted a QB and Daboll has worked with a variety. You don't have enough statistical evidence to back up your claims, furthermore of course Allen is the most athletically suited, he is by far the most physically talented QB in the class, but athleticism is a small part of draft evaluation. So you're basing it on a tiny source size, and dubious logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 11 hours ago, BigMountainGoat said: McDermott has never drafted a QB and Daboll has worked with a variety. You don't have enough statistical evidence to back up your claims, furthermore of course Allen is the most athletically suited, he is by far the most physically talented QB in the class, but athleticism is a small part of draft evaluation. So you're basing it on a tiny source size, and dubious logic. Why are you attacking this guy, take it easy man lol. Did you read the data doc in his original post at all? He doesn't only use McDermott and Daboll. Those are just two small pieces of the puzzle. Beane is at the top, followed by a handful of others. Open the doc, view the Staff Chart. His data is just showing the history of the particular staff members tendencies when looking at a prospect they've taken in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMountainGoat Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, NickChowaniec said: Why are you attacking this guy, take it easy man lol. Did you read the data doc in his original post at all? He doesn't only use McDermott and Daboll. Those are just two small pieces of the puzzle. Beane is at the top, followed by a handful of others. Open the doc, view the Staff Chart. His data is just showing the history of the particular staff members tendencies when looking at a prospect they've taken in the past. I'm not attacking him, I admire anyone putting in the effort. But there is no wrong with challenging illogical points that are pretty much pointless and irrelevant to what will happen in the draft. You can find data to support any point you want to make, doesn't mean all data is useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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