Superduperman Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 In conjunction with my Three Round Mock, here's a Lions offseason mock. There are certain positions and roles I'm not sure of under our new staff so I did the best I could. I don't research everything down to the bone and break down film, ok? It's for fun. Departures Ameer Abdullah* Cornelius Washington* Kerry Hyder* Nevin Lawson# Zach Zenner# Don Barclay# Thurston Armbrister# Paul Worrilow# Mike James# Brandon Copeland# Greg Robinson# Dwight Freeney# Jared Abbrederis# Tavon Wilson# Christian Ringo# Travis Swanson√ Haloti Ngata√ Don Carey√ *Cut in camp #Leaves in free agency √Retires Re-Signed Tahir Whitehead Ezekiel Ansah TJ Jones Darren Fells Don Muhlbach Nick Bellore Jake Rudock Hakeem Valles (PS) Free Agency G Josh Kline LB Nigel Bradham S Eric Reid CB Aaron Colvin Edge Kareem Martin DT DaQuan Jones Draft Trade #20 to Steelers for #28, #60 #28 Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama #51 M.J. Stewart, CB, North Carolina #60 Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State #82 B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina #113 Marcell Frazier, Edge, Missouri #144 Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama #211 Nick Bawden, FB, San Diego State Roster QB: Matthew Stafford | Jake Rudock RB: Rashaad Penny | Theo Riddick | Bo Scarbrough | Tion Green FB: Nick Bawden WR: Marvin Jones Jr. | Golden Tate | Kenny Golladay | TJ Jones | Jace Billingsley TE: Eric Ebron | Michael Roberts | Darren Fells LT: Taylor Decker | Brian Mihalik LG: Josh Kline | Joe Dahl C: Graham Glasgow | Leo Koloamatangi RG: TJ Lang | Zac Kerin RT: Rick Wagner | Corey Robinson 1T: BJ Hill | DaQuan Jones 3T: A'Shawn Robinson | Akeem Spence 5T: Anthony Zettel | Jeremiah Ledbetter Edge: Ezekiel Ansah | Marcell Frazier OLB: Rashaan Evans | Tahir Whitehead | Kareem Martin LB: Jarrad Davis | Nigel Bradham | Nick Bellore | Jalen Reeves-Maybin S: Glover Quin | Eric Reid | Quandre Diggs | Miles Killebrew CB: Darius Slay | Teez Tabor | M.J. Stewart | Jamal Agnew NB: Aaron Colvin K: Matt Prater P: Sam Martin PR: Jamal Agnew KR: TJ Jones LS: Don Muhlbach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Big fan of most of your free agents. Bradham would be a nice addition to a weak LB group, Reid would be a great player to have help cover TE's, Colvin is a strong slot CB, Kline is a decent "stop-gap" type of guy, Jones is decent and should be a solid value. Kareem Martin is the only one I don't get. Just don't think he adds much. Drafting LB in the 1st again is something I could see happening, especially if it's someone like Evans who can rush and play off the ball. Maybe less likely to happen if they sign Bradham and re-sign Whitehead, but I can see it. I don't get going CB in the 2nd round again, especially if they sign Colvin. I think Tabor showed enough to get an increased role this year. Penny is solid, not the ideal RB for us IMO but certainly not a bad option. Haven't focused on Hill when watching NC State but he never really stood out much. I like adding a DT in the range of starting caliber players though. Frazier is solid though that might be early for him. I'd prefer to see an OL here if Kline is the guy they get in free agency. A 4th round pick could push Kline while he develops and ideally provides better depth in case we're hit with injuries again. I love the idea of Bo Scarbrough but that dude hasn't finished a season healthy since like 8th grade. With how deep this class is there would likely be a different RB that I prefer (but I do like the idea of adding multiple RB's). Haven't watched Bawden but if he blocks well, catches well, and can add something to special teams then sign me up. This is really solid, only a few minor things I don't quite agree completely with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 My reasoning on a few things: Colvin's a slot guy and if Lawson leaves in FA and Diggs plays at safety, another outside guy is needed to develop behind Tabor, especially if Tabor isn't all that. Kareem Martin is strictly a backup and role player, not great at anything but can rush a little and cover a little. In converting to Patricia's defense we may need to add a couple of depth guys like this. I don't know anything about Bawden, I'm just going by a recent article that the Lions may add a FB, they've spoken to Bawden, and he blocked for Penny. Scarbrough's worth a 5th rounder if you ask me. I think we all agree that a true power back would be a good addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Agree with IDOG for the most part, so I won't rehash that. In your mock I commented on other guys who were available in those spots I would prefer. I'm not a film junkie either, so it's possible I could be totally off. I don't know what to think of Penny. In some reports, I read great things and he seems like a really good fit. In others, there are knocks on his build (top heavy with skinny legs). I do think that if Abdullah is let go, it would be in a trade and not just a camp cut. With Riddick in his role and Green showing something, I can't see us picking two RB's in the draft without expecting that we'd be moving on from Abdullah. Overall this is a solid job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, Superduperman said: My reasoning on a few things: Colvin's a slot guy and if Lawson leaves in FA and Diggs plays at safety, another outside guy is needed to develop behind Tabor, especially if Tabor isn't all that. Kareem Martin is strictly a backup and role player, not great at anything but can rush a little and cover a little. In converting to Patricia's defense we may need to add a couple of depth guys like this. I don't know anything about Bawden, I'm just going by a recent article that the Lions may add a FB, they've spoken to Bawden, and he blocked for Penny. Scarbrough's worth a 5th rounder if you ask me. I think we all agree that a true power back would be a good addition. Understand and agree with the reasoning. I don't think that Tabor has shown enough to assume that CB is a lock and we can move onto other positions. I think I'd prefer to get a vet guy in for that support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZski Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I do not see the Lions signing Eric Reid just due to the distraction he may cause with his political beliefs. I just dont see BQ and MP wanting the unnecessary distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 10 hours ago, BZski said: I do not see the Lions signing Eric Reid just due to the distraction he may cause with his political beliefs. I just dont see BQ and MP wanting the unnecessary distraction. The Eagles won the Super Bowl with some of the most politically active players who have the same kind of beliefs. The idea that he would be a distraction is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I actually don't like your draft man. I am not a Rashaad Penny fan. He's a big dude that doesn't play physical and was not or isn't super explosive when I watch him. I wish you spent more resources on the O-line. I mean I know you brought in Kline but honestly... I'm not sure I like him or how much better he really is than Glasgow. I want a Dallas like front and usually you've got to identify and draft those guys. People blame the defense a lot and it did take a HUGE hit when Ngata went down this year, but idk, the running game really lost a lot of game to me for us, and Kline isn't exactly a stalwart in the run game. Infact I'm not sure he's better than Glasgow in that department. Basically, it's a personal thing. If it was me I'd be building the Line and bringing in more high profiled/explosive runners. I mean you made moves in these areas, but they're just BODIES to me and not players that actually really upgrade the line. No one across the line is going to fear Kline as a run blocker or Penny as a homerun threat to go yard anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZski Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 13 hours ago, IDOG_det said: The Eagles won the Super Bowl with some of the most politically active players who have the same kind of beliefs. The idea that he would be a distraction is ridiculous. How many did the Patriots have? I will wait...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, BZski said: How many did the Patriots have? I will wait...... The Patriots add "distraction" players all the damn time...they aren't really a good team for your argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZski Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, IDOG_det said: The Patriots add "distraction" players all the damn time...they aren't really a good team for your argument How many that "protested"? .....exactly. I just think there is NOWAY Lions will sign Eric Reid. 1- He is not that good 2- The distraction he could cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Just now, BZski said: How many that "protested"? .....exactly. I just think there is NOWAY Lions will sign Eric Reid. 1- He is not that good 2- The distraction he could cause. The Patriots have zero Super Bowl wins since players started protesting systemic injustice and oppression on the sidelines before games. Insinuating that their lack of players who protested is the key to success is ridiculous, especially when you consider that the most politically active and most "protest friendly" team this year also just so happened to the be the team that beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. 1. Reid is very good, he's one of the best safeties in the NFL when it comes to covering TE's (something the Lions struggled with MIGHTILY) 2. He won't cause a distraction The Eagles literally just won the Super Bowl with multiple players who are just as vocal or more vocal about the same systemic injustice that Eric Reid was protesting. Malcolm Jenkins literally partook in the same protest and was one of the most important players on that team. A protest isn't a distraction. It has nothing to do with the play on the field and anyone who might get "distracted" by it isn't mentally strong enough to play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZski Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, IDOG_det said: The Patriots have zero Super Bowl wins since players started protesting systemic injustice and oppression on the sidelines before games. Insinuating that their lack of players who protested is the key to success is ridiculous, especially when you consider that the most politically active and most "protest friendly" team this year also just so happened to the be the team that beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. 1. Reid is very good, he's one of the best safeties in the NFL when it comes to covering TE's (something the Lions struggled with MIGHTILY) 2. He won't cause a distraction The Eagles literally just won the Super Bowl with multiple players who are just as vocal or more vocal about the same systemic injustice that Eric Reid was protesting. Malcolm Jenkins literally partook in the same protest and was one of the most important players on that team. A protest isn't a distraction. It has nothing to do with the play on the field and anyone who might get "distracted" by it isn't mentally strong enough to play in the NFL. I doubt very seriously the Lions just like the Patriots will welcome the "social injustice" BS warriors to their team because it COULD be an unnecessary distraction (see Colin Kaepernick). Eric Reid is a walking concussion and really not as good as you say anyways. Let Killabrew play as he is ready. Also, Eric Reid is NOT a Malcolm Jenkins type talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 4 hours ago, BZski said: "social injustice" BS warriors Keep this ignorant crap out of my thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X_Factor_40 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Superduperman said: Keep this ignorant crap out of my thread Lets keep the talk on Superduperman's Mock and your opinion on the merit of the players. This is NOT the place to discuss politics or how you feel about the protesting going on in the NFL in regards to whether it's right or wrong. Keep the talk on football, the mock, the players, etc. Can you debate if it'll be a distraction? Sure, but don't let personal beliefs blur those lines, or we'll have to lock this down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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