Shanedorf Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Since the start of the 2018 season, the Vikings have covered the spread 12 of 18 times (66.7%) when they’re favored... ...and 1 of 7 times (14.3%) when they’re underdogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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packfanfb Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Saw this the other day. Could be more of a Pagano v. Fangio as an explanation for the drop off, but the Amos/Dix discussion is interesting in terms of the impact on Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Saw this the other day. Could be more of a Pagano v. Fangio as an explanation for the drop off, but the Amos/Dix discussion is interesting in terms of the impact on Jackson. Lots of moving parts in that assessment. --DC changed --Amos vs HaHa --Hicks getting interior pressure vs not --overall defense 2018 vs 2019 Most likely answer is it is some combination of those + more variables 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, squire12 said: Lots of moving parts in that assessment. --DC changed --Amos vs HaHa --Hicks getting interior pressure vs not --overall defense 2018 vs 2019 Most likely answer is it is some combination of those + more variables I'm with you. There was bound to be some regression from that team just due to how good they were last year. I think safety is more of an opportunistic "lucky" position in general. They mostly feast on overthrows and tipped/dropped passes more so then just directly shadowing there guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, squire12 said: Lots of moving parts in that assessment. --DC changed --Amos vs HaHa --Hicks getting interior pressure vs not --overall defense 2018 vs 2019 Most likely answer is it is some combination of those + more variables I'd think one of those additional variables would be a tougher schedule.....at least on paper. As the division winner in 2018 they should have been set up for a tougher slate of games this year. How those teams actually performed in 2019 - not something I've researched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just a few weeks ago, these same dolts were chanting “Bears suck, Trubisky sucks”. At least GB fans are consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybrowner47 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 And I thought all Bear fans suck.. 😘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 2:09 PM, Shanedorf said: Since the start of the 2018 season, the Vikings have covered the spread 12 of 18 times (66.7%) when they’re favored... ...and 1 of 7 times (14.3%) when they’re underdogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 It's kinda fun to have a Bears fan as a coworker right now. Last night he told me he has hope that "If they stay hot and win out they could sneak into the playoffs." I got to remind him they play the Chiefs, Packers, and Vikings so it's much more likely they lose out and even if they do win out it incredibly unlikely they pass the Rams since the Rams beat them head to head and even if that somehow miraculously does happen that means they probably have Trumisky and Nagy for longer. Watching him go from 12 to 6 so fast was priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, wgbeethree said: It's kinda fun to have a Bears fan as a coworker right now. Last night he told me he has hope that "If they stay hot and win out they could sneak into the playoffs." I got to remind him they play the Chiefs, Packers, and Vikings so it's much more likely they lose out and even if they do win out it incredibly unlikely they pass the Rams since the Rams beat them head to head and even if that somehow miraculously does happen that means they probably have Trumisky and Nagy for longer. Watching him go from 12 to 6 so fast was priceless. Saw a thing last night where the Dallas playoff % dropped from something like 74 to 72% The Chicago playoff % went up from 1.something to 2.7....or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I thought the Bears were in trouble with cap space. Yikes. Look at the Vikings. Here are all their free agents next to their PFF grade. Griffin - 77.6 Waynes - 65.1 Anthony Harris - 90.5 (that is ****ing elite) Alexander - 65.7 Dan Bailey Britton Colquitt So if they cut Rhodes to make cap space, they've got zero legitimate corners under contract. They're 10 million dollars OVER the cap next year already, and none of the players they can cut are nobodies. Everson Griffin is still a good end. They virtually have to cut him to save 13 million. That gets them out of the hole only. Cut Riley Reif to save 4.4 million with THAT offensive line? Linval Joseph saves 8 million. That only means they lose Linval Joseph. Xavier Rhodes saves less than 4 million. There's 4 million, no cornerbacks. Cutting Harrison Smith saves them 6 million dollars. That's one of the best safeties in football. And that's it. Every other player on their roster either costs more to cut (Thielen, Barr, Kendricks, Rudolph) or saves less than 1 million dollars (Cook, Elflein). Considering the Bears are going to have to make cuts just to be able to afford rookies and the minimum additions they need, the Vikings are going to have to cut probably 20 million from their roster. Assume that they get 10 million just from restructuring (which is generous I think, but I'm not sure how all that works), they'd HAVE to cut at least 10 million from current contracts, and that means for sure losing two of Griffin, Reif, Joseph, Rhodes, Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: I thought the Bears were in trouble with cap space. Yikes. Look at the Vikings. Here are all their free agents next to their PFF grade. Griffin - 77.6 Waynes - 65.1 Anthony Harris - 90.5 (that is ****ing elite) Alexander - 65.7 Dan Bailey Britton Colquitt So if they cut Rhodes to make cap space, they've got zero legitimate corners under contract. They're 10 million dollars OVER the cap next year already, and none of the players they can cut are nobodies. Everson Griffin is still a good end. They virtually have to cut him to save 13 million. That gets them out of the hole only. Cut Riley Reif to save 4.4 million with THAT offensive line? Linval Joseph saves 8 million. That only means they lose Linval Joseph. Xavier Rhodes saves less than 4 million. There's 4 million, no cornerbacks. Cutting Harrison Smith saves them 6 million dollars. That's one of the best safeties in football. And that's it. Every other player on their roster either costs more to cut (Thielen, Barr, Kendricks, Rudolph) or saves less than 1 million dollars (Cook, Elflein). Considering the Bears are going to have to make cuts just to be able to afford rookies and the minimum additions they need, the Vikings are going to have to cut probably 20 million from their roster. Assume that they get 10 million just from restructuring (which is generous I think, but I'm not sure how all that works), they'd HAVE to cut at least 10 million from current contracts, and that means for sure losing two of Griffin, Reif, Joseph, Rhodes, Smith. Vikings have some of the best $ guys in the business, with the Saints, but yeah not sure what they do here. Bringing Barr back meant they were going to lose guys. Griffin, Rhodes, Linval and Reiff going is probably likely. They have some young guys at DE to step in, not sure what they do about the interior though, guess that becomes a draft priority. They have Mike Hughes and Holton Hill at corner, it could be worse but yeah a draft priority for them. OL is still a mess. Their biggest needs are for sure OL, DT, CB. How much does Anthony Harris get? This is 2 years in a row I think with an elite PFF grade. Someone will pay him something the Vikes can't afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 @Outpost31 It actually doesn't look TOO bad now that I'm on OTC. With the rookie pool they're looking at about $10m over like you said. They could cut Griffin and either Reiff/Linval and save $21-23m, which puts them $13m under considering draft pick salaries. Then they could restructure one of Reiff or Linval. Linval has 3 years remaining, would save almost $7m, Reiff has 2 years left would save $5m. They have some options... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Outpost31 said: I thought the Bears were in trouble with cap space. Yikes. Look at the Vikings That's nothing news. Early reports have Xavier Rhodes as a likely cap casualty, and that's savings of $8.1M, which would push them to $2.7M which would be enough to squeeze their draft class in. Linval Joseph is a likely cap casualty as well, and that frees up $10.6M. And they're probably going to do something with Everson Griffen. Could restructure him or ask him to take a paycut. Anthony Barr could be restructured as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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