Shanedorf Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, squire12 said: ..limit the mistakes the QB can make. If you read the article, they acknowledge the value of that premise - for some teams in the regular season. Whether it works in the playoffs vs top teams is another story. I'm betting against them, others feel differently. I think this years' (3-1) Lions are last years' (5-0) vikes. Lions have 7 INTs to only 1 for their opponents and 5 fumble recoveries to their opponents' zero. 2 picks sixes, opponents 0. Lions have a punt return TD too. None of that is sustainable. Pretty much the same as last years vikes - and we all saw how that worked out. They have 4 tough games coming up. And their December is no piknik either...including 4 cold weather games sandwiched around a trip to Tampa. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/det/2017.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Shanedorf said: If you read the article, they acknowledge the value of that premise - for some teams in the regular season. Whether it works in the playoffs vs top teams is another story. I'm betting against them, others feel differently. I think this years' (3-1) Lions are last years' (5-0) vikes. Lions have 7 INTs to only 1 for their opponents and 5 fumble recoveries to their opponents' zero. 2 picks sixes, opponents 0. Lions have a punt return TD too. None of that is sustainable. Pretty much the same as last years vikes - and we all saw how that worked out. They have 4 tough games coming up. And their December is no piknik either...including 4 cold weather games sandwiched around a trip to Tampa. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/det/2017.htm I remember banging the unsustainable drum last year for the vikes and catching a ton of grief for it ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: I remember banging the unsustainable drum last year for the vikes and catching a ton of grief for it ha. I feel like this years Lions are a better argument for the loss of sustainability than last years Vikings. While you were right, I feel like that defense is truly elite and it was injuries to an OL held together by gum and string and the loss of a guy like Diggs that was the final undoing of the Vikings. Not to mention health issues for their coach. Had that OL and Diggs stayed healthy, I dont think they totally collapse, but that's part of the game and you were right. The Lions I don't feel have a truly elite defense. They've played some real crappy QBs in Palmer, Manning and Keenum. To their credit they were great against Ryan but I dont think they have the talent long term to keep up their pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: I feel like this years Lions are a better argument for the loss of sustainability than last years Vikings. While you were right, I feel like that defense is truly elite and it was injuries to an OL held together by gum and string and the loss of a guy like Diggs that was the final undoing of the Vikings. Not to mention health issues for their coach. Had that OL and Diggs stayed healthy, I dont think they totally collapse, but that's part of the game and you were right. The Lions I don't feel have a truly elite defense. They've played some real crappy QBs in Palmer, Manning and Keenum. To their credit they were great against Ryan but I dont think they have the talent long term to keep up their pace. Had less to do with being an elite defense than relying on their defense scoring so frequently as they did early in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: I feel like this years Lions are a better argument for the loss of sustainability than last years Vikings. While you were right, I feel like that defense is truly elite and it was injuries to an OL held together by gum and string and the loss of a guy like Diggs that was the final undoing of the Vikings. Not to mention health issues for their coach. Had that OL and Diggs stayed healthy, I dont think they totally collapse, but that's part of the game and you were right. The Lions I don't feel have a truly elite defense. They've played some real crappy QBs in Palmer, Manning and Keenum. To their credit they were great against Ryan but I dont think they have the talent long term to keep up their pace. Lions have a couple of key players on defense though who are playing big right now. Slay is playing like an All Pro corner. Hes taking the top WR out of the game which allows the defense to focus elsewhere. Also their pass rush, led by Ansah is getting home more often than not. The turnovers they are causing are not flukes, they are causing those plays with pressure and good man defense. Lions are going to lose some games but I think they will be "in" every game they play this year. They are a playoff caliber team. Edited October 7, 2017 by packfanfb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 sCam is having a heck of a game against Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, DavidatMIZZOU said: sCam is having a heck of a game against Detroit. Carolina gonna win the south. ATL may finish 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltarich87 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Roethlisberger really looking washed up this season tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, deltarich87 said: Roethlisberger really looking washed up this season tbh he really is, looks like his only move is to force feed Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltarich87 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, incognito_man said: he really is, looks like his only move is to force feed Brown. with inaccurate throws at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Ben has 4 INTs on the day. Yuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Heyward just gave up his second TD of the day. Totally burned on the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, DavidatMIZZOU said: Ben has 4 INTs on the day. Yuck! Maybe it's time for him to retire after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Maybe it's time for him to retire after all? That division has: Old looking Ben Horrible looking Bert Rookie Kizer The Red Rocket Bucketful of yuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 minute ago, DavidatMIZZOU said: That division has: Old looking Ben Horrible looking Bert Rookie Kizer The Red Rocket Bucketful of yuck! It's bad when Andy Dalton is the best QB in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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