LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I guess I’d rather change a name than have others feel insulted. Names like Indians, Braves and Chiefs aren’t what I would consider offensive as they’re not demeaning, but stuff like the tomahawk chop and the chief wahoo mascot are over the top imo. Id generally avoid any stereotyping of an ethnicity for a mascot though. That’s just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just a few things that I find ironic: 1. They named the team (Indians) to honor one of their Native American players Quote The CLEVELAND INDIANS baseball team, a charter member of the American League, founded in 1901, was originally named the Blues, then the Broncos, and from 1903-11 was known as the Naps, in honor of player-manager NAPOLEON LAJOIE. From 1912-14 the team was officially named the Molly McGuires but popularly was still called the Naps. In 1915 Lajoie was traded and, based on sportswriters' suggestions, the team became permanently known as the Indians, a nickname used in the 1890s when the Amerindian LOUIS "CHIEF" SOCKALEXIS played for the old National League CLEVELAND SPIDERS. 2. Blame Christopher Columbus for thinking that he landed in India. The dude was the most overrated person in all of human history. He didn't prove the earth was round, he didn't discover America (I'm looking at you Leif Erikson and Amerigo Vespucci), and he was responsible for blatant racist Imperial actions in the name of Catholicism, greed, and Spain/Portugal. 3. The term "American Indian" is still used today. Blame the American Anthropological Association. As a matter of fact, this is an interesting read from the perspective of varying indigenous tribes and people: https://www.nativetimes.com/index.php/life/commentary/11389-native-american-vs-american-indian-political-correctness-dishonors-traditional-chiefs-of-old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Well, this conversation didn't go off the rails, good job. Time to quit while we're ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Way to go @MWil23. I told you not to keep bringing up Vespucci in every damned thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 So is Lindor going to get traded this off-season or are they going to stall on his departure another year? Sucks the way our organization is built, with such limited windows as a small market franchise. If we do trade him, I want at least one elite prospect to go with some other guys who have major league potential. No deal for a handful of average upside prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, NateDawg said: So is Lindor going to get traded this off-season or are they going to stall on his departure another year? Sucks the way our organization is built, with such limited windows as a small market franchise. If we do trade him, I want at least one elite prospect to go with some other guys who have major league potential. No deal for a handful of average upside prospects. They will trade him. They can’t afford to hold on to him to make him a deadline trade. This team won’t compete next year until a rookie or two blows up. Keeping him would be just a cash grab for the first couple months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, FGK said: Well, this conversation didn't go off the rails, good job. Time to quit while we're ahead. 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Way to go @MWil23. I told you not to keep bringing up Vespucci in every damned thread. This is an acquiesce that I win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 The cherry on the Dolan legacy sundae will be a wimpish or obscure name for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchjstnk Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 15 hours ago, NateDawg said: So is Lindor going to get traded this off-season or are they going to stall on his departure another year? Sucks the way our organization is built, with such limited windows as a small market franchise. If we do trade him, I want at least one elite prospect to go with some other guys who have major league potential. No deal for a handful of average upside prospects. If the Indians trade him, look at the Phillies or braves. They will want him out of American League. Braves top two prospects are major league ready outfielders and the Phillies have Alec Bohm who should be the beginning of any trade With them involving lindor. Bohm is going to be a stud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just change the name to the tribe. They can’t be offended by that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Just change the name to the tribe. They can’t be offended by that right? Just call them the disappointments, make things obvious for the uninitiated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Just call them the disappointments, make things obvious for the uninitiated. Cleveland Cheapskates has a nice alliteration to it and is very fitting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketheadsdad Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Cleveland Cheapskates has a nice alliteration to it and is very fitting. Here is our new team name and logo. I think it is kind of bada$%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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candyman93 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 We might have a Astros vs Yankees ALCS. Regular season means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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