BayRaider Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 - Worst Defense he has ever fielded as the Patriors head coach. Probably a lot due to letting players walk, trading them. It was actually quite odd seeing the Pats give up so many points every game this year. - Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia both did a fantastic job this season and are now both Head Coaches. So they are not to blame. - Tom Brady had one of the greatest Super Bowl QB Performances ever. Probably would of been the greatest but without the fumble. But still Top 5. - He benched Malcolm Butler. This game would of been closer with Butler in the game. 3 points or less. Pats perhaps could of even won IMO. Even though the Pats were 13-3, they weren't very dominant this year. 11 wins topps if played in the NFC IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, BayRaider said: - Tom Brady had one of the greatest Super Bowl QB Performances ever. Probably would of been the greatest but without the fumble. But still Top 5. As absurd as it feels to type this, Brady dropping that pass is one of the top 3 reasons why they lost, if we boil it down to individual plays (and in this close a game, we kind of have to). It happened on a 3rd and 5, and then they went for it on 4th down and were stopped at the Eagles' 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Pinning the blame on one person is insane. Also, not sure how you can conclude that giving up over 600 yards on defense and 40+ points is a great job by Patricia. I would say the decision to bench and not play Malcolm Butler at all was a very big reason the Patriots lost (or at least why they were so bad on defense), but ultimately it's not just one person who caused that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 He sort of is and Patricia. This actually makes Brady have more power in front of Kraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biletnikoff Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 The league giveth. The league taketh away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 Yes Patricia sucked for this game, but im talking about the season leading up to the Super Bowl as well. Patricias season earned him a Head Coaching gig. Bellichick was a shell of his former self all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Sunday February 4th at 6:30 PM he’s the greatest coach of all time. 4 hours later we have debates like this. They were outrushed, gave up more sacks, had 0 defensive sacks, and forced what, 1 punt? That’s on their lack of execution. If anything, Bill made great second half adjustments and his team took the lead with under ten minutes to play despite a 10 point halftime deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 If we're portioning out blame, then the kicker/holder combo is ahead of BB. That said, benching Butler was dumb. More painful when you look at just how bad Bademosi was, and Chungs struggles covering the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Worst Defense he has ever fielded as the Patriors head coach. Probably a lot due to letting players walk, trading them. It was actually quite odd seeing the Pats give up so many points every game this year. Umm...they were ranked 5th in the league in points given up. Not sure what you are going on about here. 28 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia both did a fantastic job this season and are now both Head Coaches. So they are not to blame. Just because they got head coaching jobs doesn't necessarily mean they did great. I'm not saying they didn't but that is a poor argument. 28 minutes ago, BayRaider said: He benched Malcolm Butler. This game would of been closer with Butler in the game. 3 points or less. Pats perhaps could of even won IMO You start by stating it as fact "this game would have been closer" and then say it is only your opinion. The latter is accurate and the former is unprovable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, BayRaider said: - Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia both did a fantastic job this season and are now both Head Coaches. So they are not to blame This isn't sound logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, biletnikoff said: The league giveth. The league taketh away. You're wrong at every turn, yet you still hold onto your conspiracy theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, BayRaider said: It was actually quite odd seeing the Pats give up so many points every game this year. They were 5th in defensive PPG. After week 4, including the Div and Conf round playoff games, they averaged 13.0 PPG. Then the Eagles dropped 41 on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 i think that while bill didn't have his best game it's fallacious to say it's his fault it is not his fault his septuagenarian of a quarterback couldn't catch a pass, nor is it his fault that their normally incredible special teams botched a snap-hold-FG, and so on and so on, the players just couldn't execute in clutch moments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 No. Brady couldn't catch a simple pass in which he had an open field in front of him. Brady lost this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, cddolphin said: They were 5th in defensive PPG. After week 4, including the Div and Conf round playoff games, they averaged 13.0 PPG. Then the Eagles dropped 41 on them. Maybe what I meant to say is teams driving so effortlessly on them. Red Zone D was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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