Shylo3716 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I understand that they have talent all across the board, but if the receivers can go in the top-10 and quarterbacks don’t, that speaks volumes. 1976 (Richard Todd) was the last time they had a QB go in the top-10 of a draft. What makes matters worst, is that they have had a few 5-star guys at the position. Out of all the top-notch talent from collegiate QBs to move on to the NFL, why is it that Alabama guys don’t translate or pan out successfully? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Shylo3716 said: I understand that they have talent all across the board, but if the receivers can go in the top-10 and quarterbacks don’t, that speaks volumes. 1976 (Richard Todd) was the last time they had a QB go in the top-10 of a draft. What makes matters worst, is that they have had a few 5-star guys at the position. Out of all the top-notch talent from collegiate QBs to move on to the NFL, why is it that Alabama guys don’t translate or pan out successfully? Saban basically wins by running the ball and likes his QB's to be game managers, who do not turn the ball over. They have been a pretty average group and it is very difficult to get a read on them, because they are rarely touched in the pocket and have all day to throw the ball. It would be very interesting to see how he would develop a QB with real pro skills, but I do not think he is ever going to plan to win by throwing the ball, so most of the QB's he recruits are very smart game managers who do not have great arm strength, hence are limited pro prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 15 hours ago, Shylo3716 said: I understand that they have talent all across the board, but if the receivers can go in the top-10 and quarterbacks don’t, that speaks volumes. 1976 (Richard Todd) was the last time they had a QB go in the top-10 of a draft. What makes matters worst, is that they have had a few 5-star guys at the position. Out of all the top-notch talent from collegiate QBs to move on to the NFL, why is it that Alabama guys don’t translate or pan out successfully? What Alabama prospect has turned out to be a halfway decent QB prospect? Since 2005, Alabama has had THREE QBs drafted: AJ McCarron, Greg McElroy, and Brodie Croyle. Croyle is the highest drafted player of the three. None of them were viewed as much more than game-managers, which is the way Alabama prefers their QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 You could say that same thing about a few of the big programs with regards to quarterbacks. When OSU had that run of Galloway / Glenn / Boston, the quarterbacks they were putting into the league were the likes of Bobby Hoying and Joe Germaine. Later they had guys like Steve Bellisari (changed positions in the nfl, I believe), Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith...but they've always had the skill position players. Since Brady, Michigan has produced the likes of John Navarre and Chad Henne and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Forge said: You could say that same thing about a few of the big programs with regards to quarterbacks. When OSU had that run of Galloway / Glenn / Boston, the quarterbacks they were putting into the league were the likes of Bobby Hoying and Joe Germaine. Later they had guys like Steve Bellisari (changed positions in the nfl, I believe), Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith...but they've always had the skill position players. Since Brady, Michigan has produced the likes of John Navarre and Chad Henne and nothing else. LSU's QB's are generally bums as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, Jlash said: LSU's QB's are generally bums as well. Wait, this guy was a bum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Ducktator Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Alabama hasn't really recruited a lot of "top talent" at QB. They have barely even had five-star QB's before bringing in Tua. At the college level, you don't need a great quarterback to win a title, you just need solid quarterback play (mistake-free, let surrounding talent play big). The greatest NFL quarterbacks, none won a national title and most never came close. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Dan Marino, Drew Brees, Troy Aikman, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Jim Kelly. Joe Montana is the only exception. College teams don't need elite quarterbacks to win titles. Just look at the champions this century; Jameis Winston and Cam Newton are the only ones to go on and have even moderate success. There is way more complete no-names than there is guys who even showed much of anything in the NFL. The Tide had the worse starting quarterback of the four playoff teams, and won it all because of the ridiculous talent they have everywhere else. They don't get into these battles for the QB prospects that require so much more attention because they are getting recruited by everybody. Bama just sits back on the QB races while soaking up major talent elsewhere. Look at this year's class, not a single QB. There really isn't much to discuss here. The Tide just don't recruit the position heavily because Saban knows he can win by loading up other areas instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Forge said: Wait, this guy was a bum? he lost weight in that pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch_connor Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Of course, they actually have turned out some great pro QBs, it's just been a while LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Alabama has the best OL and at least 2 good RBs like every year so they dont need to have an incredible QB. Just need someone to not throw picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Like People have said, they don’t really recruit crazy talented QBs. They’re basically showing off lol. They have so much talent elsewhere. Alabama dominates with a style that is proven to be keys to win in the pros. Dominate on both sides of the LOS. And surround the QB with talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: Like People have said, they don’t really recruit crazy talented QBs. They’re basically showing off lol. They have so much talent elsewhere. Alabama dominates with a style that is proven to be keys to win in the pros. Dominate on both sides of the LOS. And surround the QB with talent. It's not "showing off" really. It's just a sort of mutual exclusion process. -Bama don't really bother chasing top QB recruits with star NFL potential and tools, because they focus on continually stocking other positions with elite athletes which lets them get by with a guy who is "good enough for College ball" with game manager traits. -Which is in large part, informed by the way that Bama style football makes them a less attractive destination for high upside QB recruits with NFL starter aspirations and the tools to back it up. Top QB recruits with start NFL starting QB aspirations are generally going to be inclined to seek out other programs where they'll have more opportunity to shine and do more to hone their skills and show off their ability to do more than just hand the ball off all day and make a few easy throws when called upon. Places where they'll have more opportunity to really demonstrate their ability to "elevate" the team, while also having a program built around them. The two factors kinda pull in opposite directions, and it ends up just making more sense for both parties to go their own separate ways. Top QBs end up with more opportunity to demonstrate their "upside" and draft worth. Alabama are more than successful enough recruiting other star athletes and coaching them up to be perennial national championship contenders. Why even take the risk of building your program around one specific star QB recruit who comes and goes and could very easily be a bust...when you're having so much success just continuing to surround ho-hum college QBs with elite talent recruited at every other position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The411 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 QBs at the top programs aren’t forged under pressure. It’s the same reason why you need to have extra skepticism for any QB coming from a top college program because typically they have better athletes, better lines and are rarely the underdog in games. When they get to the NFL they aren’t well equipped with dealing with being on a bad team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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