turtle28 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 22 hours ago, Doc Draper said: Do you mean this in bold? Or were you referring to receivers? Is your man crush on our over rated LT cooling Im talking about playmakers. You know, like Im watching Hunt & Hill take 5 yard dump offs, wheel routes or crossing routes and taking them for 20, 30 or 40 yards. We have 1 of those guys who’s consistently done that - CT - but he’s hurt right now and we are 2-0 w/o him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 22 hours ago, e16bball said: Odd that there’s been 18 pages of chatter on this old thread over the last couple weeks and not one of the posts said “hey, nice call E, it’s almost remarkable how similar Smith’s start with us has been to Gannon’s in Oakland.” I guess maybe it was so obvious that it went without saying...? Why would anyone admit someone else is right? You know that doesn’t happen.. up in here! Up in here! lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 6:22 PM, turtle28 said: 65%, 3025 yds & 22 TDs the last 11 games of the year. Write it down, take a picture! Off to a banner start! 56.0%, 178 yards, and 1 TD. Only 2847 yards and 21 TDs to go! (of course, that would mean averaging 284.7 yards/game and 2.1 TD/game ... numbers he's bested only once and zero times (respectively) in his first six games) On 10/19/2018 at 8:28 PM, turtle28 said: In defense of Ryan Grant, he’s probably going to end up with 60-70 recs for 700 plus yards and 4 or 5 TDs this year in Indy. Oooo, 3.75-4.38 receptions a game, 44 yards/game, and 0.25 TD/game. How could we ever let that go?! (of course, he would get a fraction of that here with Smith, but ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 1:25 PM, turtle28 said: Well my point is about stats. If you are running the ball almost 30 times a game, instead of in the teens, the QB is going to have less stats on your team. If you are throwing the ball 43 times on average- and you also played an overtime game - that QB is going to have higher stats just by the volume of passing attempts. WHICH IS WHY YOU LOOK AT FRIGGIN' RATE STATS!! They take attempts into account!!!! GRAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 10:58 AM, Doc Draper said: He’s like a Billy Kilmer. You better have a top defense, great special teams and an awesome running game to win with him. Do we? Right now ... maybe, kinda, sorta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, Woz said: On 10/20/2018 at 1:25 PM, turtle28 said: Well my point is about stats. If you are running the ball almost 30 times a game, instead of in the teens, the QB is going to have less stats on your team. If you are throwing the ball 43 times on average- and you also played an overtime game - that QB is going to have higher stats just by the volume of passing attempts. WHICH IS WHY YOU LOOK AT FRIGGIN' RATE STATS!! They take attempts into account!!!! GRAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Which is better (completion rate): 70.0% or 63.3% Which is better (yards/attempt): 7.21 or 7.06 Which is better (touchdown rate): 4.67% or 3.57% Which is better (interception rate): 1.00% or 1.02% NONE of those categories does the rate stat favor Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Woz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 *types "I will use rate stats instead of raw volume stats" repeatedly on a piece of paper**wraps piece of paper around a piece of lumber* Do I need to "read" my Clue-By-Four(tm) to anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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turtle28 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Woz said: Off to a banner start! 56.0%, 178 yards, and 1 TD. Only 2847 yards and 21 TDs to go! (of course, that would mean averaging 284.7 yards/game and 2.1 TD/game ... numbers he's bested only once and zero times (respectively) in his first six games) Oooo, 3.75-4.38 receptions a game, 44 yards/game, and 0.25 TD/game. How could we ever let that go?! (of course, he would get a fraction of that here with Smith, but ...) Frankly, that’s better that what Garçon is giving the 49ers and they’re paying him $9 million I believe. So, while I think Harris can do everything Grant could do - and more - and Richardson is an upgrade, Grant is an average starting WR in the league who’s a great blocker and that’s nothing to be ashamed from a 5th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, turtle28 said: Grant is an average starting WR in the league who’s a great blocker and that’s nothing to be ashamed from a 5th round pick. Nothing wrong with it. Just nothing to celebrate either. Certainly not to pay in a multi year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Woz said: Which is better (touchdown rate): 4.67% or 3.57% NONE of those categories does the rate stat favor Smith. So, this isn't just for the 2nd half then I assume. Cause it would be 0%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Woz said: WHICH IS WHY YOU LOOK AT FRIGGIN' RATE STATS!! They take attempts into account!!!! GRAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I know. I know. Its like Groundhog Day, with you and I explaining this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: So, this isn't just for the 2nd half then I assume. Cause it would be 0%. I'll come back to the DVOA-by-quarters in a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Woz said: Nothing wrong with it. Just nothing to celebrate either. Certainly not to pay in a multi year contract. Just bc I’m pointing it out doesn’t mean I’m celebrating Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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