REDandPEWTER Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: He's gonna do what he was already doing. The only difference is he runs the show by himself now. Assuming he gets the job. You know that for a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Hmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Shorty Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 So our players know a change is needed but the loyalties Koetter has are more important. So basically, unless players say they won’t play for someone and demand change, coach won’t make one. Ha. I think we can be decent under Koetter, maybe win a playoff game or two, but with this way of doing things we’ll never win anything worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDandPEWTER Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Lil' Shorty said: So our players know a change is needed but the loyalties Koetter has are more important. So basically, unless players say they won’t play for someone and demand change, coach won’t make one. Ha. I think we can be decent under Koetter, maybe win a playoff game or two, but with this way of doing things we’ll never win anything worthwhile. I’d buy it if I knew most of our DL is returning. Right now, I think the report is bogus. 1. Spence and McCoy are probably the only DL that are coming back. 2. Gholston, Baker are cut candidates. Ayers and McDonald probably won’t return. You really think koetter and licht will listen to players when they can’t even have communication right now? Also these guys are all probably gone so it’s irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 hours ago, REDandPEWTER said: You know that for a fact? Nope. But it doesn't seem like there's much willingness for change within the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 7 hours ago, REDandPEWTER said: I’d buy it if I knew most of our DL is returning. Right now, I think the report is bogus. 1. Spence and McCoy are probably the only DL that are coming back. 2. Gholston, Baker are cut candidates. Ayers and McDonald probably won’t return. You really think koetter and licht will listen to players when they can’t even have communication right now? Also these guys are all probably gone so it’s irrelevant. Cutting Gholston and Ayers would be silly. We're not gonna be able to find comparable replacements, or upgrades. And we can't rely solely on rookies. And letting McDonald walk is silly for the same reason. And he was one of our only decent dlinemen last year. I get that our dline was awful. But in order to let them all go we need to be able to upgrade. And it doesn't look like we can right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingone Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 3 hours ago, bucsfan333 said: Stroud is one of the beats that seems to have good connections inside. It s good to know they gave Hayes a nice severance package. This organization loves to pay coaches it doesnt employee ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgarrett12486 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 5:33 AM, bucsfan333 said: Cutting Gholston and Ayers would be silly. We're not gonna be able to find comparable replacements, or upgrades. And we can't rely solely on rookies. And letting McDonald walk is silly for the same reason. And he was one of our only decent dlinemen last year. I get that our dline was awful. But in order to let them all go we need to be able to upgrade. And it doesn't look like we can right now. Gholston is definitely a cut candidate, in fact I'll be surprised if he isn't cut. His salary alone makes him this, as we owe nothing in guaranteed money. He provides virtually no pass rush from a premium position and his game/skill set is easily replaceable. Ayers at least has the potential and track record of actually getting to the QB. I think he stays around to mentor and rotate... I agree though, we're not going to be moving on from like 5 guys listed a top our depth chart on our Dline currently though as someone said. That is highly unlikely... I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, kgarrett12486 said: Gholston is definitely a cut candidate, in fact I'll be surprised if he isn't cut. His salary alone makes him this, as we owe nothing in guaranteed money. He provides virtually no pass rush from a premium position and his game/skill set is easily replaceable. Ayers at least has the potential and track record of actually getting to the QB. I think he stays around to mentor and rotate... I agree though, we're not going to be moving on from like 5 guys listed a top our depth chart on our Dline currently though as someone said. That is highly unlikely... I Gholston isn't a great pass rusher. I agree. But we also take him out of the game now on third downs, which certainly doesn't help. He used to get a handful of sacks every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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REDandPEWTER Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 2/12/2018 at 6:33 AM, bucsfan333 said: Cutting Gholston and Ayers would be silly. We're not gonna be able to find comparable replacements, or upgrades. And we can't rely solely on rookies. And letting McDonald walk is silly for the same reason. And he was one of our only decent dlinemen last year. I get that our dline was awful. But in order to let them all go we need to be able to upgrade. And it doesn't look like we can right now. They had two sacks combined. Dontari Poe had more and he’s a run stuffing nose tackle. Heck add swaggy baker in there and that’s 2.5 sacks for guys who’s made 5 million, 7.5 million and I believe 5.5 million last year. Excellent ROI there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, REDandPEWTER said: They had two sacks combined. Dontari Poe had more and he’s a run stuffing nose tackle. Heck add swaggy baker in there and that’s 2.5 sacks for guys who’s made 5 million, 7.5 million and I believe 5.5 million last year. Excellent ROI there. Ayers was still among the best in the league in pressures. And Gholston didn't play third downs, so he had less chances to actually rush the QB. I agree we could stand to upgrade both guys. But with who? I don't see anyone out there that can. And money isn't an issue. So I don't see the need to create more holes than we already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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