Acgott Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ny92jefferis said: We are allowed to make a total of 3 restructures and/or extensions. Obviously, in order to stay competitive in free agency, I've got to free up some money for this year. Options are as follows: Eli Manning's restructure saves us almost 5 million this year. Olivier Vernon restructure saves us almost 8 million. Janoris Jenkins restructure saves alsom 7 million. Our extension's are pretty limited in this mock. We've got two players Eli Manning and Odell, extending odell doesn't really effect our cap because I can backload the contract, so the 2018 cap hit is basically the same. For cap savings, I'm thinking restructure Vernon's contract saving us 8 million and extend Odell saving us nothing but we need to get that done. Gives us one left should we need it later. I am always against restructuring as it just hurts us in the future. It should only be used in the most desperate situation. As this is just a one year mock, it doesn't matter what we do, but I know you like it realistic although that may be more boring. Vernon already has a big cap # in 2019 (19.5M), restructuring would push it over way over 20M, probably 23M in 2019 and 23M in 2020? Not worth it. I would extend OBJ and Collins. Both will hurt our cap of course this year, but both of them are at the lowest they will ever be and tremendously will help our future. Make the small moves, not the big ones. Boring, but realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, Acgott said: I am always against restructuring as it just hurts us in the future. It should only be used in the most desperate situation. As this is just a one year mock, it doesn't matter what we do, but I know you like it realistic although that may be more boring. Vernon already has a big cap # in 2019 (19.5M), restructuring would push it over way over 20M, probably 23M in 2019 and 23M in 2020? Not worth it. I would extend OBJ and Collins. Both will hurt our cap of course this year, but both of them are at the lowest they will ever be and tremendously will help our future. Make the small moves, not the big ones. Boring, but realistic. I'll hook up OBJ but the current setup doesn't allow me to extend Collins, a process I'm still trying to refine. I'll hold off as long as I can with handing out any of the other players with restructures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 What do you think about OG - Ted Larsen? Miami is seeking a 6th round pick for him. He can play all three interior positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said: What do you think about OG - Ted Larsen? Miami is seeking a 6th round pick for him. He can play all three interior positions. He is a 31 year old guard I never heard of. He's a journeyman who missed half the season last year. Not the kind of player a rebuilding team should be going after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, Acgott said: He is a 31 year old guard I never heard of. He's a journeyman who missed half the season last year. Not the kind of player a rebuilding team should be going after. Totally overlooked his age....good catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Thoughts on Leornard Floyd for Eli Apple? Floyd suffered a knee injury week 11, but should be ready to play next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said: Thoughts on Leornard Floyd for Eli Apple? Floyd suffered a knee injury week 11, but should be ready to play next season. Oh you mean the player the Giants wanted to draft, but then someone else jumped in front of us. Yes I would do that trade, but only straight up. No picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Acgott said: Oh you mean the player the Giants wanted to draft, but then someone else jumped in front of us. Yes I would do that trade, but only straight up. No picks. Yes...that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 5:17 PM, ny92jefferis said: Mock doesn't kick off until the 15th but trades can get worked out and posted right now. I've got a few teams interested in the 2nd overall pick. I've also got people asking about Eli Apple....any idea what you think he's worth? Eli I wouldn't take anything less than a third AND a fourth. He can still be a good player in the right situation. Would fit in nicely with Denver, but doubt they would want to move the capital for him. Id like some role? What's available in the player personnel department? EDIT: I would do Floyd for Apple straight up. He could fit in nicely if we change schemes like I think we will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, YogiBiz said: Eli I wouldn't take anything less than a third AND a fourth. He can still be a good player in the right situation. Would fit in nicely with Denver, but doubt they would want to move the capital for him. I've gotten some interest on him but so far no one is offering anything but injured players, so I most likely going to just keep him on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said: I've gotten some interest on him but so far no one is offering anything but injured players, so I most likely going to just keep him on the roster. I would do the Floyd for Apple swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said: I've gotten some interest on him but so far no one is offering anything but injured players, so I most likely going to just keep him on the roster. Also have we gotten any interest on Flowers, maybe someone would give something of more value to us than it would be to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Our top priority as I'm sure you are aware should be O-line in FA. Who would you think we should target Norwell Vs. Pugh? And in Jensen Vs. Richburg? Or should we just roll with Jones? I think Jensen and Norwell would improve our blocking tremendously, and the tackle spot should be something we address in the draft, but would we be able to pry them away from their current teams? Well I think we could because both the Panthers and Ravens are more cash strapped than we are. Also with a few cuts we could have quite a bit of cap space. Enough to sign two top flight lineman, I believe so. A 4 Year, $36-38 million would be enough IMO to get one of the top 5 center in the league. Not going the fifth year gives him the opportunity to go ahead and get one more bigger deal before his prime is up. Norwell could be tricky, a 5 Year, $51-56 million deal could get it done, but the question is would you rather pay Norwell $10-11M/Year for at least 14 games of action or pay Pugh $9-10/Year for at most 13 games a year? I think Pugh+Richburg would cost us around 13-15M to keep on the interior. The question is paying $18M-20M (only 5m more) for higher caliber, more durable players worth it? If my answer hasnt been obvious it should be. I believe splurging on the line is the best solution for us. Also we should look at trading #2 if you don't feel like we need more selections than a QB? Which I'm an advocate for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Any ERFA or RFA signings we should make? ERFA 8059 - Robert Thomas - 43DT 9148 - Curtis Grant - ILB 9203 - Jon Halapio - LG 8037 - Ryan O'Malley - TE 8950 - Travis Rudolph - WR RFA 6970 - Deontae Skinner - 43OLB 8422 - Brett Jones - C For me the only two I'd sign would be Robert Thomas and tender Brett Jones. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YogiBiz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, ny92jefferis said: Any ERFA or RFA signings we should make? ERFA 8059 - Robert Thomas - 43DT 9148 - Curtis Grant - ILB 9203 - Jon Halapio - LG 8037 - Ryan O'Malley - TE 8950 - Travis Rudolph - WR RFA 6970 - Deontae Skinner - 43OLB 8422 - Brett Jones - C For me the only two I'd sign would be Robert Thomas and tender Brett Jones. Thoughts? My thoughts on the center positiin are above, but I do think Jones is valuable. Could be the back up interior lineman with versatility to okay multiple positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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