BDL Discussion Thread 2018

[Hockey5djh]

2 minutes ago, bcb1213 said:

7 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said:

....does anyone actually ever do this?

now and then yes.  At the end of the year if you have some extra cash and some guy you don't like on a not expensive muilti year deal, you just eat the money to dump him off the team

Sounds like a super rare occurrence. Unless you're up against the roster limits there's literally no incentive to do it.

[WFLukic]

There's no real reason to do it unless you need the roster spaces. 

[bcb1213]

Just now, Hockey5djh said:

Sounds like a super rare occurrence. Unless you're up against the roster limits there's literally no incentive to do it.

basically that's when it happens

[WFLukic]

The last I remember was Blue a few years back, maybe Taylor since?

[bcb1213]

1 minute ago, Jlash said:

 

I don't know how many people dump players with multi year deals. But I've seen people strapped for roster spots towards the end of a year and need to make a waiver pick up cut someone and pay their salary toward the end of the year.

I like to use whatever 'extra' cap space I have on double downs at the end of the year.

that was mainly back in the jepg 4 year 501 per days lol

[Hockey5djh]

It would be cool to replace it with something like an NHL style "buyout" option where you can cut them but you have to retain a percentage of their cap over double the years of the contract. Kinda like a backwards double down.

[Ragnarok]

37 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said:

Ok....lets hear how my first BDL draft went

1.1 - Saquon Barkley, RB, PSU
1.11 - Roquon Smith, LB, UGA
1.13 - Harold Landry, EDGE, BC
3.10 - Mike Hughes, CB, UCF
3.14 - Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
4.2 - Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
6.1 - Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan
7.4 - BJ Hill, DT, NC State

Also big props to Taylor for helping out the whole way, unfortunately we didn't get some of the guys he liked (Shepherd, Chubb)

I think you did very well.  I personally am not a big Landry fan, but overall, you got very good value and filled some holes.

[bcb1213]

2 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said:

It would be cool to replace it with something like an NHL style "buyout" option where you can cut them but you have to retain a percentage of their cap over double the years of the contract. Kinda like a backwards double down.

while i understand that, we try to keep financials as simple as possible

[Ragnarok]

3 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said:

It would be cool to replace it with something like an NHL style "buyout" option where you can cut them but you have to retain a percentage of their cap over double the years of the contract. Kinda like a backwards double down.

Most of us aren't smart enough to keep up with the financial rules as they are.

[WFLukic]

Yeah the current financial system is simple and effective. 

Although something I discussed with a couple contract guys would be potentially adjusted 3UPs for currently contracted players. So if you have someone a contract way under their 3UP number and they have a current contract, you can work their current BDL contract into the 3UP extension. 

Example - 2018 year. 

Current Method: 

For the 2018 year I have Player X on 5000/1 contract.
Player X has an IRL contract of $40,000 over 4 years (or $10,000 per). 

Regular 3UP at end of 2018: 30000*0.85 = 25,500 = 8500/3. 

Proposed:

The 3UP is used at the start of the year instead. 

5000/1 + (30000*0.85)/3  = $30,500/4

= $7625/4

So essentially you convert the $3500 difference between the current year contract and the next year 3UP number and extend it throughout the 3UP deal. 

Make sense?

[Ragnarok]

1 minute ago, WFLukic said:

Yeah the current financial system is simple and effective. 

Although something I discussed with a couple contract guys would be potentially adjusted 3UPs for currently contracted players. So if you have someone a contract way under their 3UP number and they have a current contract, you can work their current BDL contract into the 3UP extension. 

Example - 2018 year. 

Current Method: 

For the 2018 year I have Player X on 5000/1 contract.
Player X has an IRL contract of $40,000 over 4 years (or $10,000 per). 

Regular 3UP at end of 2018: 30000*0.85 = 25,500 = 8500/3. 

Proposed:

The 3UP is used at the start of the year instead. 

5000/1 + (30000*0.85)/3  = $30,500/4

= $7625/4

So essentially you convert the $3500 difference between the current year contract and the next year 3UP number and extend it throughout the 3UP deal. 

Make sense?

[Jlash]

2 minutes ago, WFLukic said:

Yeah the current financial system is simple and effective. 

Although something I discussed with a couple contract guys would be potentially adjusted 3UPs for currently contracted players. So if you have someone a contract way under their 3UP number and they have a current contract, you can work their current BDL contract into the 3UP extension. 

Example - 2018 year. 

Current Method: 

For the 2018 year I have Player X on 5000/1 contract.
Player X has an IRL contract of $40,000 over 4 years (or $10,000 per). 

Regular 3UP at end of 2018: 30000*0.85 = 25,500 = 8500/3. 

Proposed:

The 3UP is used at the start of the year instead. 

5000/1 + (30000*0.85)/3  = $30,500/4

= $7625/4

So essentially you convert the $3500 difference between the current year contract and the next year 3UP number and extend it throughout the 3UP deal. 

Make sense?

[WFLukic]

It's not that difficult. It's just a slightly more complex version of the BDL 5th year option thing where you can exercise it a year early and then average out the salaries for the 2 years. 

[bcb1213]

yea, a discount on top of the discount, ain't happening either IMO

[Hockey5djh]

46 minutes ago, WFLukic said:

Yeah the current financial system is simple and effective. 

Although something I discussed with a couple contract guys would be potentially adjusted 3UPs for currently contracted players. So if you have someone a contract way under their 3UP number and they have a current contract, you can work their current BDL contract into the 3UP extension. 

Example - 2018 year. 

Current Method: 

For the 2018 year I have Player X on 5000/1 contract.
Player X has an IRL contract of $40,000 over 4 years (or $10,000 per). 

Regular 3UP at end of 2018: 30000*0.85 = 25,500 = 8500/3. 

OR Regular 3UP at the beginning of 2018: 40000*.85= 34,000 = 8500/4 and your 5000/1 contract is null. Essentially it raises the contract by 3500 for signing a good player early.

Proposed:

The 3UP is used at the start of the year instead. 

5000/1 + (30000*0.85)/3  = $30,500/4

= $7625/4

So essentially you convert the $3500 difference between the current year contract and the next year 3UP number and extend it throughout the 3UP deal. 

Make sense?

I literally said this same thing to SirA when asking about a potential Hayward 3up. I added the red above. I think you should get the benefit of the BDL contract and not just throw it out the window because of a new IRL contract. I asked him to add it to the list of winter meeting subjects.