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Not sure how I feel about the Jaguars buying Wembley. On one hand its the national teams stadium that took years and £1bn to build which probably mainly came from taxes.

On the other hand I live the other end of the country and only go to Wembley for the NFL or Derby getting there (which doesn't happen) and I was in secondary school when it was built so its not my taxes haha!

It will be interesting if it goes through though because it looked like the Tottenham stadium was going to be the future host for the NFL. I mean they literally built the pitch on wheels to accommodate a separate NFL field underneath.

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2 hours ago, WFLukic said:

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As far as the Greg Olsen contract, his previous RL contract was 3/22.5 for 2016 through 2018 season (Signed as an extension 2015)...new extension is 2/17.1 (for 2019 and 2020).  Values for us are:

2018 - 7.500

2019 - 8.550

2020 - 8.550

3/24.600  (.85) = 3/6970 would be the 3 Up #

We don't use existing BDL contracts in extensions as I recall, as they may have already been discounted on previous 3 Ups.  No double dipping.

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I'm getting ready to head out for a few days to watch the draft at a buddies house (No Cable here). I'll update anything that needs it when I get back Saturday night.

Should be still making comments but I'll only have my tablet which is not good to update spreadsheet with.

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44 minutes ago, pheltzbahr said:

As far as the Greg Olsen contract, his previous RL contract was 3/22.5 for 2016 through 2018 season (Signed as an extension 2015)...new extension is 2/17.1 (for 2019 and 2020).  Values for us are:

2018 - 7.500

2019 - 8.550

2020 - 8.550

3/24.600  (.85) = 3/6970 would be the 3 Up #

We don't use existing BDL contracts in extensions as I recall, as they may have already been discounted on previous 3 Ups.  No double dipping.

By that logic a Hayward 3 up would be as follows (as opposed to the previous 9,421 quoted):
 

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As far as the Casey Hayward contract, his previous RL contract was 3/15.3 for 2016 through 2018 season (Signed as an extension 2015)...new extension is 3/33.25 (for 2019, 2020, and 2021).  Values for us are:

2018 - 5.100

2019 - 11.083

2020 - 11.083

2021 - 11.083

4/38,350  (.85) = 4/8149 would be the 3 Up #

We don't use existing BDL contracts in extensions as I recall, as they may have already been discounted on previous 3 Ups.  No double dipping.

 

Let me know.

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On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 2:14 PM, SirA1 said:
On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 11:29 AM, Hockey5djh said:

I'll go back to my Hayward example. I currently have him under contract for 6500/1. He just signed a 3 year extension that starts next season. To 3Up him this year I would need to pay him at his extension rate this year even though his extension doesn't kick in until next year.

AKA $33250 * 0.85/3= $9,421 over 4 years. He's not even making that IRL this year as he's still on his previous contract with a $6,833 year before the new money kicks in.

I've been wanting to touch base on this but work was busy this week so just getting to it now. What Bcb, JLash and I are against is double dipping on discounts. It goes back a few years when one of the previous owners PSU wanted to try and include part of a players RFA deal into the 3 up equation. Which is why we don't do that anymore.

So we defaulted to the Avg salary on Spotrac for basing deals off of (casting aside Roto that was wildly inaccurate sometimes). So if you are wanting to use a 3 Up to get the contract discount this is just the cost you pay. The number you are trying to reach above $9,421/4 years through a 3 Up is just the wrong way to go about it by adding a cheap year and the 3 Up discount.

What we have been fine with in the past is 100% deals as long as players get all the new money and current BDL money. So in this case for Hayward it would be $6,500 + $33,250 = $39,750/4 years = $9,938/yr. That's just a little over $500 off the number you were seeking and doesn't cross the double discount threshold. I'd be ok with this. 

I'll let @Jlash @Ragnarok @bcb1213 @MD4L give their thoughts on the matter though.

No system is ever going to be perfect since we are dealing with different NFL teams crafting individual deals to suit their needs and not ours. 

Here's the other way the math was done.

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5 hours ago, pheltzbahr said:

As far as the Greg Olsen contract, his previous RL contract was 3/22.5 for 2016 through 2018 season (Signed as an extension 2015)...new extension is 2/17.1 (for 2019 and 2020).  Values for us are:

2018 - 7.500

2019 - 8.550

2020 - 8.550

3/24.600  (.85) = 3/6970 would be the 3 Up #

We don't use existing BDL contracts in extensions as I recall, as they may have already been discounted on previous 3 Ups.  No double dipping.

I want including previous NFL. The 6500 was coming off the base. @SirA jusjust for second confirmation are Pheltx #s correct? I'll correct it so.

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