jrry32 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: Besides N.O. being the city of N.O. I thought that was the best fit for him as an organization, to take over for Brees once he hangs them up. His ceiling is Brees with a little more athleticism. Odds are no one ever reaches their ceiling but that offense would be good for his skill set and I think offer him the best chance to reach his potential. He is a talented QB. Not really likable and has well known issues but if you can look past that he has a chance to succeed. Is there some other Brees? Because his ceiling certainly isn't DREW Brees with a little more anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 i really dont see him coming back, he's basically a media circus at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Maybe kick the tires at the very least. See if he's as good as his word. Even if his ceiling is as a backup, might as well see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: Is there some other Brees? Because his ceiling certainly isn't DREW Brees with a little more anything. I wouldn't expect anyone to reach their ceiling, there is no real logical reason that Brees is as good as Brees. That is extremely rare. Manziel has a lot of talent (I know, people quiver at the thought), including arm talent both strength and accuracy. Also, Manziel has half of the Browns wins as a starting QB over their last 53 games. Doesn't that sound impressive? He did it with just 6 starts and hasn't been on the team for a couple years. 6 starts 3 years ago netted twice as many wins as Browns QBs have had since then. Man, the Browns have struggled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Nope. He was never even backup material imo. Small, poor decision maker, average arm, scattershot accuracy, poor leader, system QB. If i were him i'd be looking at the CFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzane Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Pretty sure that Johnny Manziel will get another shot, one way or the other. Johnny Football, after being subjected to noisy fan disapproval, asked if the boos bothered him: "Naah, I just stick to beer, now!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I'm glad he's getting the help he needs but he needs to focus on his health first and foremost. Bi-polar disorder doesn't go away, ever, mental illness is something you live with for the rest of your life. I know several people personally who self medicated with alcohol and it's very destructive and dangerous. He needs to be focused on being sober and healthy beyond an NFL job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 9 hours ago, BayRaider said: He'll take his XFL backup job and like it. So this dude isn't even a top 50 QB in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: I'm glad he's getting the help he needs but he needs to focus on his health first and foremost. Bi-polar disorder doesn't go away, ever, mental illness is something you live with for the rest of your life. I know several people personally who self medicated with alcohol and it's very destructive and dangerous. He needs to be focused on being sober and healthy beyond an NFL job. He is claiming he has done all that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: I wouldn't expect anyone to reach their ceiling, there is no real logical reason that Brees is as good as Brees. That is extremely rare. Manziel has a lot of talent (I know, people quiver at the thought), including arm talent both strength and accuracy. Also, Manziel has half of the Browns wins as a starting QB over their last 53 games. Doesn't that sound impressive? He did it with just 6 starts and hasn't been on the team for a couple years. 6 starts 3 years ago netted twice as many wins as Browns QBs have had since then. Man, the Browns have struggled. Brees is Brees because he has elite accuracy, brain and work ethic, three things that are much more important than overrated athleticism(for QB) and while I admit to not having watched much Manziel, I believe it's three things that he has very little of. Although I'm not saying you're wrong, he very well could have a really high ceiling he'll never reach, considering how much success he had in college despite partying all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 56 minutes ago, TXsteeler said: So this dude isn't even a top 50 QB in the world? Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I'm still convinced that Manziel might have been a solid starting QB in the league if he weren't such an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 At a time when the Hamilton Tiger-Cats of the Canadian Football League want Manziel to agree to terms, Manziel has agreed to terms with The Spring League, a short-season developmental league based in the U.S. Launched last year, The Spring League essentially is a pre-draft showcase for available players who may end up being signed by NFL teams after the draft, ostensibly to fill needs that aren’t satisfied via the process of picking incoming rookies, one round at a time. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/14/johnny-manziel-signs-deal-with-spring-league/ looks like a way for Manziel to get some short term and quick exposure without tying himself to a long contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 35 minutes ago, vike daddy said: looks like a way for Manziel to get some short term and quick exposure without tying himself to a long contract. I never heard of the Spring league until now... interesting. EDIT: Some recognizable names outside of Manziel, too. Glen Coffee, Ben Tate, Ahmad Bradshaw, Kellen Winslow Jr... 2xEDIT: Holy cow, I can register to play in this league for $700! Let's get a GoFundMe together, who doesn't want to see me get ran over by Johnny Football!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, EliteTexan80 said: I never heard of the Spring league until now... interesting. EDIT: Some recognizable names outside of Manziel, too. Glen Coffee, Ben Tate, Ahmad Bradshaw, Kellen Winslow Jr... 2xEDIT: Holy cow, I can register to play in this league for $700! Let's get a GoFundMe together, who doesn't want to see me get ran over by Johnny Football!? Couple of other names I recognized there too. Greg Hardy, Fred Jackson, Noel Devine, Ricky Stanzi, Ishmael Zamora and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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