moretti19 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 . Cuts: Morgan Burnett: Can't stay healthy and iffy if he is worth the money when healthy. Ahmad Brooks: Improvement needed. Randall Cobb: Jordy slides to a Larry Fitz role allowing for Cobb to be cut. Restructure: Jordy Nelson: 2yr 13 mil Resign: Jahri Evans: Was a great lineman last year Davon House: Insurance in case of injuries, good when healthy Free Agents: Vontae Davis: Gives us a true number 1 cb who plays at a elite level and still has 3-4 great years left. Allen Robinson: Brought in on a 1 year Alshon type deal Johnny Manziel: Let him battle for the back up spot The Draft: Gb receives a 3rd and three 5ths RD1. Trade: Buffalo sees a QB falling and trades their pick 21 and 22 for GB 14 and 3rd rounder. RD1(Buffalo) image: http://walterfootball.com/college/LSU_logo.gif Arden Key*, 3-4OLB, LSU Height: 6-5. Weight: 260. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 2/3/18: Team sources think Key has high first-round talent and that he could be a devastating pass-rusher in the NFL. In a survey of league sources, Key was considered to be among the elite talents of this draft class. However, teams have major off-the-field concerns with Key and think they could cause him to slide in the 2018 NFL Draft. Key's off-the-field issues are similar to Randy Gregory or Tim Williams. While there are concerns, scouts also say that Key loves football and has worked on his own with pass-rushing guru Chuck Smith to develop his skills. Key has to interview extremely well in order to be a high pick RD1 (Buffalo) Hayden Hurst*, TE, South Carolina Height: 6-5. Weight: 250. Projected 40 Time: 4.65. Projected Round (2018): 1-2. 2/10/13: Team sources say that Hurst is the only tight end they were really excited about in this year's class. They felt he is the only tight end prospect who is of a similar caliber to last year's group who went in the first and second round. RD2: Equanimeous St. Brown*, WR, Notre Dame Height: 6-4. Weight: 205. Projected 40 Time: 4.50. Projected Round (2018): 1-3. 2/10/18: St. Brown had 33 receptions for 515 yards and four touchdowns in 2017. Throughout the season, St. Brown got open through his excellent route-running while also seeing a lot of double teams, but the immense struggles of Notre Dame's quarterback play and passing offense limited St. Brown. RD3 Comp: Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia Height: 6-6. Weight: 242. Projected 40 Time: 4.75. Projected Round (2018): 2-4. 2/3/18: Carter was improved as a senior while starting to play up to his athletic potential. He showed dangerous edge-rushing skills against Notre Dame and made a lot of big plays to help the Bulldogs win in South Bend. In 2017, Carter had 57 tackles with 4.5 sacks, three forced fumbles and 7.5 tackles for a loss. Sources say they are giving Carter third- or fourth-round grades, although the team that likes him enough to draft him could take him earlier. RD4: Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon Height: 6-5. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.28. Projected Round (2018): 3-5. 1/22/18: In the early going of 2017, Crosby had to work off some rust after missing almost all of 2016, but he still opened a lot of holes for running back Royce Freeman, who racked up a lot of yards on the year. Crosby did not allow a sack or hit on the quarterback in the first five games of the season. He was invited to play at the Senior Bowl. RD5: image: http://walterfootball.com/college/Wagner_logo.gif Greg Senat, OT, Wagner Height: 6-7. Weight: 300. Projected 40 Time: 5.20. Projected Round (2018): 4-6. 1/22/18: Some sources felt that Senat was the best of the offensive linemen at the East-West Shrine. Senat has strength and surprising movement skills. As one scout described him, "Senat is a fire hydrant that can move." After playing at Wagner, Senat has shown the skill to make the jump in competition from his time in St. Petersburg, and those tests will continue with a NFL team after the 2018 NFL Draft. RD5 (comp): Antonio Callaway*, WR, Florida Height: 5-11. Weight: 197. Projected 40 Time: 4.46. Projected Round (2018): 4-6. 2/10/18: Callaway didn't play in 2017 because of a suspension. He ended up in pre-trial diversion after reportedly facing felony fraud charges for allegedly transferring money from a stolen credit card. NFL teams already had major off-the-field concerns about Callaway. While he loves football, he has a lot of issues in terms of hanging out with bad influences, and teams are concerned about him consistently failing drug tests in the NFL. Callaway was suspended repeatedly by Florida, and he hurt his team by earning another suspension to start the 2017 season. RD 5(comp) image: http://walterfootball.com/college/Illinois_logo.gif Jaylen Dunlap, CB, Illinois Height: 6-1. Weight: 190. Projected 40 Time: 4.45. Projected Round (2018): 4-6. 1/22/18: Dunlap has an excellent combination of size and speed for his NFL team to work with. He wasn't a star for Illinois, but sources say he is draftable and has the skill set to be a better pro than college player. Dunlap has good size and is said to run very fast in the 40. Like most big corners, he has tightness in off-man coverage and is better off playing press-man and getting physical. RD5 (comp) image: http://walterfootball.com/college/Connecticut_logo.gif Folorunso Fatukasi, 3-4DE, Connecticut Height: 6-4. Weight: 303. Projected 40 Time: 5.15. Projected Round (2018): 3-5 2/3/18: Fatukasi notched 45 tackles, 7.5 for a loss and four sacks in 2017. He had an impressive week at the East-West Shrine. Fatukasi was quick at the point of attack and also strong to hold his ground. He showed the versatility to fit a 3-4 or 4-3 defense. RD6: Bo Scarborough*, RB, Alabama Height: 6-2. Weight: 228. Projected 40 Time: 4.54. Projected Round (2018): 4-6. 2/10/18: Scarborough averaged 4.8 yards per carry in 2017 for 596 yards with eight touchdowns on 124 carries. He had 17 receptions for 109 yards as well. Scarborough has the upside to have produced more, but Damien Harris served as Alabama's feature back while others were splitting carries with Scarborough. Scarborough left school early, which was a questionable decision. On the negative side, he didn't play well enough or produc enough to prove he can be a NFL starter. On the positive side, he probably would have had fewer carries as the third-string back behind Damien Harris and Najee Harris in 2018. Both of them are more talented than Scarborough. RD7: image: http://walterfootball.com/college/Utah_logo.gif Lowell Lotulelei, NT, Utah Height: 6-2. Weight: 310. Projected 40 Time: 5.40. Projected Round (2018): 6-FA. 2/3/18: In 2017, Lotulelei had 16 tackles with a pass batted and 1.5 sacks. He is a plugger nose tackle, but he doesn't make stops in the ground game and lacks an ability to contribute in the pass rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplejcubed3 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 don't like the Johnny football signing lol, but i like the draft. good job overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 21 and 22 for 14 and a 3rd.... dude lol. Buff sending 21 and a 3rd is much more realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I can get behind some of the players but the idea of Hurst in the 1st worries me because there are a few TEs I'd rather have before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, JBURGE25 said: 21 and 22 for 14 and a 3rd.... dude lol. Buff sending 21 and a 3rd is much more realistic I would think GB would have to send something other than 14 and a 3rd to Buffalo to get those two firsts, but QB trading back to 21 in the 1st round for just a 3rd? Naaah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, ArthurPensky said: 9 minutes ago, JBURGE25 said: 21 and 22 for 14 and a 3rd.... dude lol. Buff sending 21 and a 3rd is much more realistic I would think GB would have to send something other than 14 and a 3rd to Buffalo to get those two firsts, but QB trading back to 21 in the 1st round for just a 3rd? Naaah. I wouldn't want to move down either for that. But yes, we would have to send our 2nd and even that may not be enough. The trade value chart isn't completely accurate, but the team that trades down almost always loses value on that chart. Gb sending 14 and 2nd for 21 and 22 is 1540 for 1580. Pretty close and it may work, but more than likely if GB put it out there they were looking to move down, we would have to send something else on top of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, JBURGE25 said: I wouldn't want to move down either for that. But yes, we would have to send our 2nd and even that may not be enough. The trade value chart isn't completely accurate, but the team that trades down almost always loses value on that chart. Gb sending 14 and 2nd for 21 and 22 is 1540 for 1580. Pretty close and it may work, but more than likely if GB put it out there they were looking to move down, we would have to send something else on top of that Yeah, the only thing that could change that would be the QB they want sitting there at 14. They might overpay for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, ArthurPensky said: Yeah, the only thing that could change that would be the QB they want sitting there at 14. They might overpay for that. For comparison's sake: - us sending 14 and 3rd is 1300 points. - us sending 14 for Buffalo 21 and 3rd is 1100 for about 965, which would be the likely deal. Anyways, yeah, if there was a QB they would look at that. I think it's likely the QBs will be gone by 14 with Arizona a candidate to move up as well, so Buff and Arizona will probably fight over those picks 10-12 like we saw last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Want nothing to do with Johnny Manziel, and that Buffalo trade seems wildly unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I think the Maziel idea is interesting ... somebody is going to give him a chance. I'd let him battle it out with Hundley for the backup job .. if he sucks you cut him. If he's good you have a backup qb or a potential trade chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSG Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Would really like this offseason but I don't see it as all that realistic. We're not signing Manziel. I don't think Buffalo would give up that sort of ransom and I think a lot of the players selected are going to be taken much sooner than predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubz41 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 It was an entertaining effort. Thanks. I can appreciate the 'out of the box' thinking. Alas, the nattering nabobs of negativity will shoot down any theory that doesn't dovetail with their preconceived notion of 'reality'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 You lost me at Johnny Manziel. I couldn't take the rest serious after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilprin Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 8:16 AM, JBURGE25 said: 21 and 22 for 14 and a 3rd.... dude lol. Buff sending 21 and a 3rd is much more realistic Only if GB's new GM is an idiot. To move up 7 slots is a 600 PT value difference. A 3rd rounder is worth about 265. #21 and #33 (if they own that) would be the best value balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilprin Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/14/2018 at 8:29 AM, JBURGE25 said: For comparison's sake: - us sending 14 and 3rd is 1300 points. - us sending 14 for Buffalo 21 and 3rd is 1100 for about 965, which would be the likely deal. Anyways, yeah, if there was a QB they would look at that. I think it's likely the QBs will be gone by 14 with Arizona a candidate to move up as well, so Buff and Arizona will probably fight over those picks 10-12 like we saw last year. You must have a different pick value board than I do. I know there are a few out there. I would NEVER trade #14 for #21 and a 3rd. I would be pissed at Guty if he did. Take a difference maker at #14 unless you get a boatload of picks / value for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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