WindyCity Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Hub Arkush is reporting that Fuller really wants to stay with the Bears and the plan is for him to sign before free agency or give the Bears a chance to match whatever he is offered on the market. http://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/03/01/way-we-hear-it-kyle-fuller-absolutely-wants-to-return-to-chicago-bears/anzjxfe/ Good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Awesome news! I can't imagine him getting more than 10 to 12 million per year (and even that seems high). This is great for us... If we could land him and Breeland it completely opens up our draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, G08 said: Awesome news! I can't imagine him getting more than 10 to 12 million per year (and even that seems high). This is great for us... If we could land him and Breeland it completely opens up our draft. Honestly I am cool if they bring Prince back. I actually think they compliment each other well. Prince presses and Kyle plays off. The safety can rotate over to Prince who is playing the more difficult coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Honestly I am cool if they bring Prince back. I actually think they compliment each other well. Prince presses and Kyle plays off. The safety can rotate over to Prince who is playing the more difficult coverage. This is exactly why I like the pairing so much. Prince is one of the better press cover corners in the league, he isn't really special anywhere else but does everything but generate turnovers well. Fuller at times becomes dominant, his games vs CIN and CLE were fantastic. He may not be the best presser, but can plant his foot and make a play as well as about anyone. He can jump routes and tackles very well for a CB, it would be rough to lose him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 21 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Honestly I am cool if they bring Prince back. I actually think they compliment each other well. Prince presses and Kyle plays off. The safety can rotate over to Prince who is playing the more difficult coverage. I could live with that too, but I want to get younger and have a tandem that plays together for the next 3-5+ years if possible. Doesn't seem like we're breaking the bank at WR so if Wilson is the move I could see another mid-to-low tier signing at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsooie5 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Bashaud Breeland is a CLEAR upgrade moving forward. Prince is nothing more than an injury prone temporary bandaid. I think a mid 20’s duo of Fuller/Breeland would be well above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Sugashane said: This is exactly why I like the pairing so much. Prince is one of the better press cover corners in the league, he isn't really special anywhere else but does everything but generate turnovers well. Fuller at times becomes dominant, his games vs CIN and CLE were fantastic. He may not be the best presser, but can plant his foot and make a play as well as about anyone. He can jump routes and tackles very well for a CB, it would be rough to lose him. So let's step back and pretend we're a team looking for a CB and we don't know much about Fuller other than he had a solid season in 2017. What would be an acceptable contract for him? Xavier Rhodes is a 2 time Pro Bowler and First-Team All-Pro with 9 career INTs. He just signed a 5 year/$70 million/$32.8 million guaranteed contract ($14.02 million per year average). Kyle Fuller deserves nothing near that (no offense to him). Desmond Trufant is a 1 time Pro Bowler with 9 career INTs. He just signed a 5 year/$68.75 million/$41.526 million guaranteed contract ($13.75 million per year average). Again, Kyle Fuller doesn't deserve that kind of money. Dre Kirkpatrick seems like a decent match. 5 year/$52.5 million/$12 million guaranteed ($10.5 million per year average). I think Fuller's market should be something like 5 years/$60 million/$28 million guaranteed ($12 million per year average) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, G08 said: So let's step back and pretend we're a team looking for a CB and we don't know much about Fuller other than he had a solid season in 2017. What would be an acceptable contract for him? Xavier Rhodes is a 2 time Pro Bowler and First-Team All-Pro with 9 career INTs. He just signed a 5 year/$70 million/$32.8 million guaranteed contract ($14.02 million per year average). Kyle Fuller deserves nothing near that (no offense to him). Desmond Trufant is a 1 time Pro Bowler with 9 career INTs. He just signed a 5 year/$68.75 million/$41.526 million guaranteed contract ($13.75 million per year average). Again, Kyle Fuller doesn't deserve that kind of money. Dre Kirkpatrick seems like a decent match. 5 year/$52.5 million/$12 million guaranteed ($10.5 million per year average). I think Fuller's market should be something like 5 years/$60 million/$28 million guaranteed ($12 million per year average) Agreed. $12 million is about where I would put him at. That gives him (at the moment) the 10th highest average per year for CBs. Of course that will drop as the market values increase with the cap per year, which is why I am not concerned about going a bit higher. Can you imagine the ridiculous contract that someone like Lattimore will get after his 5th year (barring injury)? He may hit the $20 million per year mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 @Sugashane What do you think Breeland is going to get on the open market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, G08 said: @Sugashane What do you think Breeland is going to get on the open market? Man I don't know. I thought once Fuller was shipped to KC it would be announced that he is staying. I can't believe the position WAS has themselves in. Norman is clearly the one, but is Dunbar a true number 2? Even with my Gator homerism I just don't see it, hell he was a WR in college and converted after going undrafted. There is no way they can be that high on Moraeu I don't think. My guess is he is gone, and they try to throw a ton of money at a high-profile CB. WAS has never been shy about throwing megadeals around, and they likely want to have the top CB tandem in the NFL. I think Breeland gets about $8 mil per year, if he holds out after the top guys go, he might find a way to manipulate himself up to $10, but I just think he will get $8 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Man I don't know. I thought once Fuller was shipped to KC it would be announced that he is staying. I can't believe the position WAS has themselves in. Norman is clearly the one, but is Dunbar a true number 2? Even with my Gator homerism I just don't see it, hell he was a WR in college and converted after going undrafted. There is no way they can be that high on Moraeu I don't think. My guess is he is gone, and they try to throw a ton of money at a high-profile CB. WAS has never been shy about throwing megadeals around, and they likely want to have the top CB tandem in the NFL. I think Breeland gets about $8 mil per year, if he holds out after the top guys go, he might find a way to manipulate himself up to $10, but I just think he will get $8 mil. I’d like Rashaan Melvin or Aaron Colvin as our #2 to Fuller too as guys with more upside than Prince too. EJ Gaines as well but he’s got injury problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 1 minute ago, AZBearsFan said: I’d like Rashaan Melvin or Aaron Colvin as our #2 to Fuller too as guys with more upside than Prince too. EJ Gaines as well but he’s got injury problems. I'd love that too, but once Melvin signed with Rosenhous I figured he was going to try to get a stupid contract. Colvin is clearly an upgrade, but his youth likely gets him more on the market than Prince. Gaines is my favorite by far. IDK what to guess he makes, but seeing him and Fuller on the outside would make me happy as hell. What do you think Gaines will get on the open market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Sugashane said: I'd love that too, but once Melvin signed with Rosenhous I figured he was going to try to get a stupid contract. Colvin is clearly an upgrade, but his youth likely gets him more on the market than Prince. Gaines is my favorite by far. IDK what to guess he makes, but seeing him and Fuller on the outside would make me happy as hell. What do you think Gaines will get on the open market? Gaines has a pretty significant injury history which I think will somewhat limit his market by comparison to a few of the others. My suspicion is he’ll get comparable AAV to Colvin and Melvin but less guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Saw an article last night that theorized bears were in talks to trade for Jarvis Landry and this is what it was Dolphins send: Jarvis Landry, 1st round pick (pick 11?), 3rd round pick Bears send: Jordan Howard, 1st round pick (pick 8?) and I went to bed feeling like I was going to die. Howard is the only likable player on offense for me right now. I would've been okay with signing Landry but not letting go of Howard for him, or moving back in the first for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkwdw13 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Tyty said: Saw an article last night that theorized bears were in talks to trade for Jarvis Landry and this is what it was Dolphins send: Jarvis Landry, 1st round pick (pick 11?), 3rd round pick Bears send: Jordan Howard, 1st round pick (pick 8?) and I went to bed feeling like I was going to die. Howard is the only likable player on offense for me right now. I would've been okay with signing Landry but not letting go of Howard for him, or moving back in the first for him. Multiple reports have been posted that this rumor was false, and that Howard is not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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