titans0021 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 As a Titans fan, I'm pretty unsurprised by this given our offensive struggles last season. I'd be more concerned about it if we were rolling with the same coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 19 hours ago, GongKong said: Browns play no one tough especially divisional games. Everyone we play is tough. Really tough. How else do you go 4-44? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 My head hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GongKong Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Everyone we play is tough. Really tough. How else do you go 4-44? I meant browns suck and are free wins that skew stats for teams that get to play them positively. Not that Browns are tough themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, GongKong said: I meant browns suck and are free wins that skew stats for teams that get to play them positively. Not that Browns are tough themselves. I know what you meant, I was joking that we aren’t bad, but that everyone else must be incredible. “How else do you go 4-44”... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GongKong Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 My bad, reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Why are the Vikings primed to fall this year but not the Rams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 On 2/24/2018 at 1:46 PM, GongKong said: Browns play no one tough especially divisional games. Every team plays their division opponents tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Damn, I just figured this all up. Even as bad as the Browns were this year, there were still 11 other teams with a lower variance of point differentials between division and non-division games. I didn't expect that. Tm Variance Division PD Inter PD DAL -82 52 -30 CIN -67 4 -63 DET -66 50 -16 NYJ -60 -12 -72 NYG -50 -46 -96 TEN -46 12 -34 IND -41 -50 -91 MIA -40 -36 -76 SFO -36 -8 -44 KAN -32 54 22 DEN -29 -32 -61 CLE -24 -76 -100 JAX -13 81 68 HOU -12 -43 -55 OAK -12 -30 -42 ATL 0 19 19 NWE 4 79 83 BUF 5 -31 -26 GNB 12 -38 -26 PIT 12 43 55 ARI 14 -40 -26 NOR 20 51 71 LAR 31 59 90 BAL 34 29 63 MIN 40 45 85 TAM 47 -47 0 SEA 56 -11 45 PHI 56 53 109 CHI 58 -57 1 LAC 67 8 75 WAS 72 -59 13 CAR 82 -23 59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: Why are the Vikings primed to fall this year but not the Rams? 13 wins.....that's why. It's not sustainable. Unless you're the Patriots, getting to 12 wins is to hard to accomplish every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/20/2018 at 11:27 PM, Bolts223 said: Teams that win an unusual number of close games tend to be flukes though. Patriots win an unusual number of close games too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 2 hours ago, theJ said: Patriots win an unusual number of close games too. Not really. In 2017 they went 6-3 in 1-score games (including playoffs.) That's obviously a good record, but nothing like the 9-2 the Raiders and Giants went. Most of the games the Patriots win are by multiple scores, the Raiders and Giants won 3 and 2 games respectively by more than a score in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areksoo Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 10 hours ago, Bolts223 said: Not really. In 2017 they went 6-3 in 1-score games (including playoffs.) That's obviously a good record, but nothing like the 9-2 the Raiders and Giants went. Most of the games the Patriots win are by multiple scores, the Raiders and Giants won 3 and 2 games respectively by more than a score in 2016. Maybe not a huge amount in any given season, but since Brady has been a starter, they've been north of their Pythagorean expectation for 14 out of 17 seasons. 2 seasons slightly under with only 1 season below by 1.5 wins. You don't get there without winning a lot of close ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, areksoo said: 11 hours ago, Bolts223 said: Not really. In 2017 they went 6-3 in 1-score games (including playoffs.) That's obviously a good record, but nothing like the 9-2 the Raiders and Giants went. Most of the games the Patriots win are by multiple scores, the Raiders and Giants won 3 and 2 games respectively by more than a score in 2016. Maybe not a huge amount in any given season, but since Brady has been a starter, they've been north of their Pythagorean expectation for 14 out of 17 seasons. 2 seasons slightly under with only 1 season below by 1.5 wins. You don't get there without winning a lot of close ones. Yep. I compiled this a while ago, but here it is again. Since 2001, the Patriots are 73-34 in 7 point games (34-15 in 3 point games). My assertion in the other thread i posted this in is that one score games are not necessarily coin flips like people like to claim. There exist good teams that know how to win close games, and teams that don't know how to win close games. And that occasionally those teams will kill the Pythagorean formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolts223 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, theJ said: Yep. I compiled this a while ago, but here it is again. Since 2001, the Patriots are 73-34 in 7 point games (34-15 in 3 point games). My assertion in the other thread i posted this in is that one score games are not necessarily coin flips like people like to claim. There exist good teams that know how to win close games, and teams that don't know how to win close games. And that occasionally those teams will kill the Pythagorean formula. I agree with you that winning close games isn't random. I'm saying that no team can realistically expect to go 9-2 in one-score games like the Raiders and Giants did in 2016 on any consistent basis. When a team ONLY wins close games, that usually means that they were a fluke. The Patriots blow plenty of teams out, and they are always among the highest point differentials in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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