skibrett15 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, cannondale said: If you listen to an Aaron Rodgers interview and then watch him play, you're like -- yep. Watching Jackson made me nervous. He's a run on sentence going everywhere and nowhere. He eventually gets his point across, but it's pretty painful IMO. Some things I couldn't understand at all. I don't feel confident or at ease at all when listening to him. Would this bother me at all at any other position ? No. Can he command the huddle of my franchise and provide the leadership necessary ? He wouldn't instill confidence in my eyes. Does he seem like a likable guy ? Sure, I guess. Thanks. I didn't hear the interview, so that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, cannondale said: If you listen to an Aaron Rodgers interview and then watch him play, you're like -- yep. Watching Jackson made me nervous. He's a run on sentence going everywhere and nowhere. He eventually gets his point across, but it's pretty painful IMO. Some things I couldn't understand at all. I don't feel confident or at ease at all when listening to him. Would this bother me at all at any other position ? No. Can he command the huddle of my franchise and provide the leadership necessary ? He wouldn't instill confidence in my eyes. Does he seem like a likable guy ? Sure, I guess. Are you comparing 21 year old Jackson to 21 year old Rodgers? Or 10+ year NFL starter Rodgers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 21 minutes ago, squire12 said: Are you comparing 21 year old Jackson to 21 year old Rodgers? Or 10+ year NFL starter Rodgers? 20 year old Rodgers 5 minutes after having his wisdom teeth pulled trying to read Japanese off of cue cards for the first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, cannondale said: If you listen to an Aaron Rodgers interview and then watch him play, you're like -- yep. Watching Jackson made me nervous. He's a run on sentence going everywhere and nowhere. He eventually gets his point across, but it's pretty painful IMO. Some things I couldn't understand at all. I don't feel confident or at ease at all when listening to him. Would this bother me at all at any other position ? No. Can he command the huddle of my franchise and provide the leadership necessary ? He wouldn't instill confidence in my eyes. Does he seem like a likable guy ? Sure, I guess. So how he speaks to a room full of strangers = how he commands a huddle of his peers? Sorry, that's a bad comparison. I was awful in speech class back in the day, does that make me a poor leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: So how he speaks to a room full of strangers = how he commands a huddle of his peers? Sorry, that's a bad comparison. I was awful in speech class back in the day, does that make me a poor leader? Did you see the interview ? No different than any other measurable. Opinions vary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 do they still do the Wonderlic? is Jackson closer to Rodgers 35 or Vince 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 A couple of things from the combine. O line. The Packers like O linemen that can run a 10yd split inthe 40 dash in a 1.7 time. they also seem to like a 3 cone time of 7.70 or less (see the table in 'Draft Prospects Linked To Gutey' page 5). That 3 cone time weeds out a lot of prospects, with the 10 yd split helping to dump the slow-footed guys (though Packers O linemen Bulaga, Sherrod and Datko ran the split in the 1.8's). Guys that (sort of) fit that bill Colby Gossett App. St. 6'5", 311, 10yd 1.85, 3 cone 7.6 Arms 33 7/8 Kolton Miller UCLA 6'9" (!), 309, 10yd 1.67, 3 cone 7.38, Arms 34" (very impressive for a huge guy) Joe Noteboom TCU 6'5", 309, 10yd 1.72, 3 cone 7.65, Arms 34 7/8 Brian O'Neill Pittsburgh 6'7", 297, 10yd 1.70, 3 cone 7.14 Arms 34" Scott Quessenbury 6'4", 315, 10yd 1.76, 3 cone 7.5 Arms 31 3/4 Tight Ends with speed to stretch the field. These guys ran the fastest 40 times (not counting the 5'11" Jaylen Samuels) Mike Gesicki Penn St. 6'5", 247, 4.55 (3 cone 6.76) Mark Andrews Okklahoma 6'5", 256, 4.67 (3 cone 7.34) Hayden Hurst S.Carolina 6'4" 250, 4.67 (3 cone 7.19) Will be 25 at the start of next season Ian Thomas Indiana 6'5", 248, 4.74 (3 cone 7.15) Jordan Thomas Miss. St. 6'6", 280, 4.74 (!) (3 cone 7.50) Impressive for a 280lb guy, but is so unpolished he probably is undrafted i liked Noteboom from the O line and Hurst from the TEs more than I did before the combine. Noteboom needs more consistency generally, while Hurst needs to polish route running (as most prospects do) and his hands tend to be wide on contact (not necessarily so bad for the Packers, who teach outside hands technique). I already liked the Indiana TE, Thomas, but it's nice to see solid speed. Such a shame we couldn't see Goedert doing the various drills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said: Mike Gesicki Penn St. 6'5", 247, 4.55 (3 cone 6.76) Mark Andrews Okklahoma 6'5", 256, 4.67 (3 cone 7.34) Hayden Hurst S.Carolina 6'4" 250, 4.67 (3 cone 7.19) Will be 25 at the start of next season Ian Thomas Indiana 6'5", 248, 4.74 (3 cone 7.15) Jordan Thomas Miss. St. 6'6", 280, 4.74 (!) (3 cone 7.50) Impressive for a 280lb guy, but is so unpolished he probably is undrafted I think Ian Thomas could be best value at TE in the late 3rd to 4th round. Been on my radar for a few weeks, happy about his numbers at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredpack Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Gesicki’s speed is so odd. He doesn’t look that nimble, the 40 was a surprise. But the 3 cone? That’s just plain crazy. Maybe I’m wrong but that doesn’t show up in any of the games I’ve seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, tredpack said: Gesicki’s speed is so odd. He doesn’t look that nimble, the 40 was a surprise. But the 3 cone? That’s just plain crazy. Maybe I’m wrong but that doesn’t show up in any of the games I’ve seen. Did Gesicki block more at Penn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 11 hours ago, cannondale said: Did you see the interview ? No different than any other measurable. Opinions vary I'm with you on this. Listening to someone speak is one of the things I pay closest attention to. For every position, but especially QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 47 minutes ago, tredpack said: Gesicki’s speed is so odd. He doesn’t look that nimble, the 40 was a surprise. But the 3 cone? That’s just plain crazy. Maybe I’m wrong but that doesn’t show up in any of the games I’ve seen. I watched a couple of his cut-ups and he looked REALLY fluid, but a bit like a baby deer smooth yet - like he needs to mature his body control somewhat. Those numbers are pretty impressive, however! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers Select Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1.59 10 yard split for H. Landry. Wow. Very Matthew-esque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers Select Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 UPDATED: 40 times of edge rushers everyone is keying in on here: Chubb with an unofficial 4.66 Davemport with an unofficial 4.59 Sweat with an unofficial 4.53 (1.53 10-yard) Armstrong Jr. with an unofficial 4.88 Landry with an unofficial 4.65 (1.59 10-yard) Note: Key and Hubbard did not run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Csraverage said: 40 times of names everyone is keying in on here: Chubb with an unofficial 4.66 Davemport with an unofficial 4.59 Sweat with an unofficial 4.57 Armstrong Jr. with an unofficial 4.88 Landry with an unofficial 4.65 Note: Key and Hubbard did not run. Lots to like there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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