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Teen Girl Squad Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 24 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: Doing "more work" on a prospect right now seems like he heard a substantial rumor than random happenstance. Interesting to see if he sneaks into late round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, Teen Girl Squad said: Doing "more work" on a prospect right now seems like he heard a substantial rumor than random happenstance. Interesting to see if he sneaks into late round 1. Quite, I like DJ a lot and there's no reason to believe he's being untruthful. The timing looks a little like he's caught onto some 1st round interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Superman(DH23) said: So the long awaited Soul & Science just aired. You have to really pay close attention to the wording but here is the tale of the tape Load to Release : Allen : .38 secs (on par with Brady) Darnold : .44 secs ( faster than Winston & Carr) Release Velocity: Allen: 74.3 mph Darnold: avg 52 mph Velocity on the run: Allen: 58 mph Darnold: 45mph (peak) Side note of the 4 QBs featured so far only 1 has had 1 very specific drill featured which is also an accuracy test. Hit an 8 ft crossbar from 35 yards on 1 attempt. We can only assume that they are only showing the successful attempts. The only qb shown so far...Josh Allen. What does it all mean? Well imo the release concerns for Darnold are very real. In the Mason Rudolph episode they mentioned that an NFL cb closes about 1 foot per .01 sec. That means the window is a lot tighter for Darnold than the NFL average (.40). The velocity is also a concern. 52 mph is very average in the NFL. Doesnt mean that he cant succeed, but its definitely a concern. On the plus side for Darnold they did mention that his footwork showed that he is always in balance. Honestly this just furthers my concerns around Darnold. Im already doubting him bc of the ball security issues add in a slow release and an average arm and i dont see a top 5 pick. Watching the Darnold snippet, i'm not even sure that fully reflects the concern with his delivery. The way it looked on screen, and the way they measure it from "load" (in addition to being a controlled situation) kinda cuts out the numerous instances where in-game Darnold has a tendency to "pre-load", which then effectively becomes at least a peripheral part of his release time. But a component that isn't really included in that delivery time figure. It's a big part of my concern with Darnold's throwing motion, and i think where his "elongated motion" and some of the "fumble problems" are related. The "throw on the run" bit, i thought actually saw a bit more of that element peeking through, where he drops the ball significantly almost down to his hip while "loading". That's more the concern to me. The rest of the motion isn't "pretty", but that's fine - plenty of successful "ugly throwers". It's the pre-load/windup element in game that i don't like. 2 hours ago, goldfishwars said: Quite, I like DJ a lot and there's no reason to believe he's being untruthful. The timing looks a little like he's caught onto some 1st round interest. I really wouldn't be surprised if Ragnow went 1st round. Before his injury, it certainly felt like he was building that kind of stock. As long as the injury is behind him, i don't see why not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 5 hours ago, goldfishwars said: This is 100x too dramatic. Between stuff like this, and the weirdly reverential Greg Cosell love that always comes around this time of year reminds me how much we take not only the draft, but sports in general, way too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Rich7sena said: This is 100x too dramatic. Between stuff like this, and the weirdly reverential Greg Cosell love that always comes around this time of year reminds me how much we take not only the draft, but sports in general, way too seriously. Most 95% of the players drafted every year won't be remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/988750300679954437?s=21 Scheftet the latest to connect Baker to the Browns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomont Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Not buying that for 2 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, bomont said: Not buying that for 2 seconds. 1 sec? Like I said b4 - either it’s lying season (to induce the Jets to move up and give up something huge for Mayfield), or the homeless dude got to Haslem...again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Mayfield isn’t a Dorsey type of QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 8 hours ago, Teen Girl Squad said: Doing "more work" on a prospect right now seems like he heard a substantial rumor than random happenstance. Interesting to see if he sneaks into late round 1. In the comments he mentions that the reason he's doing it is because a scout told him he was wrong on Ragnow and that during the Auburn game he was hurt (Trying to play through an ankle sprain I believe). DJ admitted he needed to do more analysis having found that out. Which makes sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVillain112 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Counselor said: Mayfield isn’t a Dorsey type of QB. The rumors seem to center around Scot McCloughan being a big Baker fan, and Dorsey/Browns trusting his opinion. I mean it's better than taking the advice of a homeless guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskid007 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I don’t believe anything we’re reading either, just relaying it. Either way, I can’t remember a draft where there was 3 QBs being floated as options to go #1 2 days before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Hue Jackson likes to leak stuff. I wouldn’t be shocked if Dorsey is trying to weed out his sources and other leakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Apparently, Rosen is completely off the Broncos draft board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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