BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 13 hours ago, candyman93 said: It needs to be mentioned, we’ve had some recruiting classes flop really bad. The 2019 class has SUCKED outside of Garrett Wilson. The 2020 class didn’t give us anything either, but I blame covid for that. Pretty unfair to judge the 2020 class as you kinda eluded to. Not many kids played and covid, like you said. Judgement needs to be reserved. Now next year, if those kids don't step up, yeah, we have to start discussing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 16 hours ago, Raves said: So I was looking at the past few recruiting years and it seems like Ohio State hasn't brought in a lot of OL. They've gotten a couple of the top guys but never a consistent big haul of high ranked OL like some of the other programs like Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, and Clemson have recently. Is our OL development/recruitment just not what it has been in years past? Not sure i'd agree with that. We're losing a 3 year starting LT, and multi year starting interior linemen in Josh Myers and Wyatt Davis, and next year's oline looks to be pretty damn impressive LT: Paris Johnson, May Wray LG: Matthew Jones, Ryan Jacoby OC: Harry Miller, (Jacoby) RG: Luke Wypler or Enokk Vimahi, Donovan Jackson RT: Nicholas Petit-Frere, Dawand Jones That's a pretty damn good 2-deep. The 2021 incoming isn't class outside of Jackson isn't the highest rated, but we always seem to find a high 3/low 4 star gem every couple of years too. With the early strength of the 2022 class, I think they'll be able to pull in a high ranked lineman or two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Pass rushing ends are what we were lacking this year. They’ve had Chase or one of the Bosas for the last however many years. They need a guy like Sawyer to contribute in that way next year. Smith is decent but not a 1st round type pass rusher to this point. Zach Harrison hasn’t developed into that edge rusher either. Depending on who comes back they could be solid in the middle. It sounds like Haskell Garrett could surprise and return. If Togiai were to come back then that would be a big deal on the line. I agree though, the o-line should be solid. We’ll see what Myers does but the talent at tackle is good for next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, THE DUKE said: Not sure i'd agree with that. We're losing a 3 year starting LT, and multi year starting interior linemen in Josh Myers and Wyatt Davis, and next year's oline looks to be pretty damn impressive LT: Paris Johnson, May Wray LG: Matthew Jones, Ryan Jacoby OC: Harry Miller, (Jacoby) RG: Luke Wypler or Enokk Vimahi, Donovan Jackson RT: Nicholas Petit-Frere, Dawand Jones That's a pretty damn good 2-deep. The 2021 incoming isn't class outside of Jackson isn't the highest rated, but we always seem to find a high 3/low 4 star gem every couple of years too. With the early strength of the 2022 class, I think they'll be able to pull in a high ranked lineman or two. I actually think Dawand Jones will factor in there somehow, they LOVE him 2 hours ago, NateDawg said: Pass rushing ends are what we were lacking this year. They’ve had Chase or one of the Bosas for the last however many years. They need a guy like Sawyer to contribute in that way next year. Smith is decent but not a 1st round type pass rusher to this point. Zach Harrison hasn’t developed into that edge rusher either. Depending on who comes back they could be solid in the middle. It sounds like Haskell Garrett could surprise and return. If Togiai were to come back then that would be a big deal on the line. I agree though, the o-line should be solid. We’ll see what Myers does but the talent at tackle is good for next year. -Part of the reason is that we have been pretty spoiled with having the likes of Chase Young, The Bosas, Hubbard, Tyquan Lewis and even Noah Spence. -I know this isn't really our thing, but I wouldn't mind exploring the portal, like how Miami did with Jaelen Phillips and Quincy Roche. I'm not really looking forward to what we hare returning at DE, except Smith, Zach Harrison has been trash, he is soft, no other way to put it. If what you say about DT is true, that would be awesome but we need Vincent to be the guy we thought he was. TBH, we need all of those guys who were 5* and 4* to live up to their billing, If Sawyer is anywhere close to as good as we think he is, he will play a ton. Zach Harrison needs to go see the wizard -We absolutely need to hit the portal for DBs, I am deathly afraid of what we have coming back Edited January 13, 2021 by MSURacerDT55 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 4 hours ago, NateDawg said: Pass rushing ends are what we were lacking this year. They’ve had Chase or one of the Bosas for the last however many years. They need a guy like Sawyer to contribute in that way next year. Smith is decent but not a 1st round type pass rusher to this point. Zach Harrison hasn’t developed into that edge rusher either. Depending on who comes back they could be solid in the middle. It sounds like Haskell Garrett could surprise and return. If Togiai were to come back then that would be a big deal on the line. I agree though, the o-line should be solid. We’ll see what Myers does but the talent at tackle is good for next year. Aren't they beefing up Stover to play DE as well? Thought I remembered reading that. Agreed on Harrison though. Hopefully he can figure his game out this off-season b/c we really need him next year. There's no reason we should lack a premiere pass rusher that we've had like you stated. We simply recruit too many good prospects and have too good of coaching to have that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 7:32 PM, bootsy said: The 2019 class wasn't highly regarded to begin with. It was the 14th ranked class. Harrison is the disappointment in that class but he still has time to redeem himself. 2020 as you said is too early to judge. The ‘19 class was just small. They had the 3rd best avg of players behind Bama and Georgia. also think it’s still early to say the class is awful. They were 2nd years guys dealing with Covid. Also the classes before them were stacked. So they weren’t going to see the field right away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: Aren't they beefing up Stover to play DE as well? Thought I remembered reading that. Agreed on Harrison though. Hopefully he can figure his game out this off-season b/c we really need him next year. There's no reason we should lack a premiere pass rusher that we've had like you stated. We simply recruit too many good prospects and have too good of coaching to have that happen. Stover made the switch to tight end last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, NateDawg said: Stover made the switch to tight end last season. Ah it was TE. I couldn't remember but thought I had remembered him switching positions. Wonder if he's interested in going back.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) If this isn't a great sell for JT Tuimoloau, him and Sawyer would be god sends even if they play in just packages. Those are two difference makers Edited January 14, 2021 by MSURacerDT55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 53 minutes ago, MSURacerDT55 said: If this isn't a great sell for JT Tuimoloau, him and Sawyer would be god sends even if they play in just packages. Those are two difference makers I would think the game helped Bama more, unfortunately . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: I would think the game helped Bama more, unfortunately . How? If Togiai and Garrett declare, we have a glaring hole at DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cortes02 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I'm a little nervous about Meyer taking the Jaguars job and stealing the best personnel from Ohio State. I know that Alabama replaces personnel almost every year and still wins but it can't really be that easy. Especially with some of the coaches and their current relationships with future recruits. Peace!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 The cyst has healed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 hours ago, cortes02 said: I'm a little nervous about Meyer taking the Jaguars job and stealing the best personnel from Ohio State. I know that Alabama replaces personnel almost every year and still wins but it can't really be that easy. Especially with some of the coaches and their current relationships with future recruits. Peace!!! I just be curious who he trys and steals. When it comes to assistant coaches, I don’t know who he would take. Feel like with his lack of NFL experience he would want NFL guys. I couldsee him stealing Mick tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, buno67 said: I just be curious who he trys and steals. When it comes to assistant coaches, I don’t know who he would take. Feel like with his lack of NFL experience he would want NFL guys. I couldsee him stealing Mick tho https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2021/01/120602/mickey-marotti-reportedly-to-stay-at-ohio-state-as-urban-meyer-appears-set-to-return-to-coaching well that answers that question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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