SemperFeist Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, HitStickAllDay said: And that, friends, is why I asked the question. Looking for information. Was just trying to understand why Cousins is one of the most if not the most pressured QB in the league. Rashod Hill and Mike Remmers Edited October 23, 2018 by SemperFeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Vikings QB Kirk Cousins has an NFL-high 210 completions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krauser Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Kirk Cousins has thrown for 12 touchdown passes and no interceptions when the ball travels over 10 yards through the air. http://mnvkn.gs/UqB843 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On October 24, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Krauser said: Those are some impressive numbers. Cousins has definitely been worth the investment as the run game has largely been nonexistent and the defense has struggled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2803271-vikings-qb-kirk-cousins-already-looking-like-an-84-million-flop?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial I can't say that I disagree. He is who we thought he was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) That is a terribly short sighted article, and quite frankly, a complete waste of time. And quite frankly, the author is wrong. Cousins has been better than advertised. For a guy that many said could only be effective if he were kept clean, Cousins has been one of the best QBs under pressure, while being pressured the 2nd most among QBs who’ve started all 8 games. This author seems to be trying to put the blame on Cousins for a lot of things that are out of his control. And he seems to be only using one game to do it. Edited October 29, 2018 by SemperFeist 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, wcblack34 said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2803271-vikings-qb-kirk-cousins-already-looking-like-an-84-million-flop?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial I can't say that I disagree. He is who we thought he was... The writer of that article should go play in traffic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krauser Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, wcblack34 said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2803271-vikings-qb-kirk-cousins-already-looking-like-an-84-million-flop?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial I can't say that I disagree. He is who we thought he was... Really? Cousins hasn't been amazing but he's been effective. He's throwing accurately including deep downfield. He seems to be seeing the field well. He isn't missing open targets. He's under a lot of pressure, and has handled that well. Two of the sacks yesterday were right up the middle in barely 2 seconds. The play calling and running game haven't made his life any easier. Thielen and Diggs have been excellent (mistakes last night aside) but the other receivers aren't doing him any favors. The defense hasn't done much to win games this year. He's made a few mistakes, mainly the fumbles. He hasn't made many turnover worthy throws -- two INTs bounced off receivers hands and another was caused by Diggs' mistake. The batted passes are an issue but it's not clear how much of that is really under his control. He could be more efficient and aggressive in hurry up situations. Overall Cousins is clearly not a top 5 QB but he's playing better than Keenum or Bradford did the last 2 years. He's comparable in quality to Stafford, a step down from Ryan and not even close to as good as Rodgers at his best. And his contract is exactly in line with that. Edited October 29, 2018 by Krauser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since72 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Quarterback play is one of the very few areas on the team that is improved this year. We got a competent QB for a change, locked up for 3 years, that isn't injury prone, gets along well with teammates and coaches, making incredible throws under pressure, and has thrown for 2500+ yards in half a season. Compared to Ponder, Webb, Cassel, Bridgewater, Bradford, and Keenum, I'll take it. It doesn't bother me that he got paid megabucks. It's not my money. This just isn't the Vikings' year. We seemed to have the wind to our backs all last year. This year is only half over and I don't have the time or inclination to list all the crap, but this just isn't their year. It happens. Enjoy the good parts. It's only football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 31 minutes ago, Krauser said: Really? Cousins hasn't been amazing but he's been effective. He's throwing accurately including deep downfield. He seems to be seeing the field well. He isn't missing open targets. He's under a lot of pressure, and has handled that well. Two of the sacks yesterday were right up the middle in barely 2 seconds. The play calling and running game haven't made his life any easier. Thielen and Diggs have been excellent (mistakes last night aside) but the other receivers aren't doing him any favors. The defense hasn't done much to win games this year. He's made a few mistakes, mainly the fumbles. He hasn't made many turnover worthy throws -- two INTs bounced off receivers hands and another was caused by Diggs' mistake. The batted passes are an issue but it's not clear how much of that is really under his control. He could be more efficient and aggressive in hurry up situations. Overall Cousins is clearly not a top 5 QB but he's playing better than Keenum or Bradford did the last 2 years. He's comparable in quality to Stafford, a step down from Ryan and not even close to as good as Rodgers at his best. And his contract is exactly in line with that. Even though I was somewhat disappointed in his performance last night, I concur that Freeman's article was basically hot garbage and awfully negative. But, that's not Freeman's first time making some extreme comments towards the Vikings and it probably won't be his last...he likes to get clicks. In 3 weeks, he might post about Danielle Hunter being the greatest DE since Strahan and Everson Griffen is Jason Taylor-incarnate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Kirk Cousins has been pressured on 41% of his drop backs. Of qualifying QBs, only Deshaun Watson has faced more pressure. That’s despite Cousins getting rid of the ball in an average of 2.46 seconds, the 9th quickest time among QBs with at least 200 drop backs on the year. For comparison, in 2017, Keenum was pressured on 39% of his drop backs, Sam Bradford was pressured on 33% of his drop backs in 2016, and Bridgewater was pressured on 46% of his drop backs in 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakish Mind Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 4 hours ago, since72 said: Compared to Ponder, Webb, Cassel, Bridgewater, Bradford, and Keenum, I'll take it. It doesn't bother me that he got paid megabucks. It's not my money. This is what a lot of people don't get. They want to immediately compare him to brady/Brees/Rodgers...compare him to what we've had in the past 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Cousins has been better than I expected. No one expected him to be a Brady, Brees, Rodgers. He wouldn't be that far off if he was better manipulating the pocket. Does cousins always tap the ball right before winding up? It seems like they are really timing the jumps right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: It seems like they are really timing the jumps right A lot of this falls on the offensive linemen. They need to be a better job at staying engaged, which doesn’t allow the defender to set up and jump. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that a lot of the deflected passes started after we started seeing multiple injuries along the o-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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