PrplChilPill Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 They know what Teddy is....an ok QB. Lock MIGHT be good. You have to play Lock in that situation. (to be clear, I don't think Lock will be good, but we know Teddy won't be) Play to win, or go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: They know what Teddy is....an ok QB. Lock MIGHT be good. You have to play Lock in that situation. (to be clear, I don't think Lock will be good, but we know Teddy won't be) Play to win, or go home. There is no "might be good" to Lock. He never should have been drafted in the 2nd rd in the first place. It was another case of Elway being a bad evaluator of QBs. He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Great player, terrible evaluator of talent. He finally did the right thing and is sticking to what he knows, as he's decent in management of people, but he's not a scout at heart, which is where Paton thrives. I think Paton/Fangio are just throwing a bone to Lock by even letting him compete, because if I already know what he is, they certainly do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: They know what Teddy is....an ok QB. Lock MIGHT be good. You have to play Lock in that situation. (to be clear, I don't think Lock will be good, but we know Teddy won't be) Play to win, or go home. Lock will not provide wins for Denver. He's not smart with the football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, swede700 said: There is no "might be good" to Lock. He never should have been drafted in the 2nd rd in the first place. It was another case of Elway being a bad evaluator of QBs. He's the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Great player, terrible evaluator of talent. He finally did the right thing and is sticking to what he knows, as he's decent in management of people, but he's not a scout at heart, which is where Paton thrives. I think Paton/Fangio are just throwing a bone to Lock by even letting him compete, because if I already know what he is, they certainly do. My prediction is that Lock will be traded or cut before the real season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Good for Teddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, swede700 said: Good for Teddy. I was worried our 3rd stringers were going to change their minds lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 This makes the decision to pass on Fields, Jones, or any QB available in the draft look very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: This makes the decision to pass on Fields, Jones, or any QB available in the draft look very bad. I understand the perception, but it all depends upon how Paton felt about them. To him, maybe Fields or Jones weren't good fits for the offensive scheme that was going to be run. Unless Fields or Jones turn out to be HOFers, I don't believe he can really be criticized on it. I know I have never been sold on Fields or Jones either, so even if they probably need a QB, I don't believe they should take one just to take one. I'm pretty sure he learned the same from the whole Ponder fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) The abilities of Fields and Jones cover the entire gamut of styles of offense that you’d look to run, so if they didn’t that they would be able to run the offense, but they thought Lock or Bridgewater could, I’d seriously question their ability to evaluate talent. Not to mention, that they should be adjusting their scheme to best fit the players, especially the QB. But it also goes well beyond Fields and Jones. The Broncos didn’t draft any QB to try and develop for the future, which tells me that Paton did not learn from the Ponder fiasco. The Ponder fiasco wasn’t a fiasco because they drafted Ponder. It was a fiasco because of poor roster management (not drafting a development QB while Favre was here, and entering the draft with zero QBs on the roster), and then over drafting Ponder. Ironically. Denver is setting themselves up for something similar, as Drew Lock is the only QB they have under contract beyond this season, and they just announced that he’s not their guy. Setting themselves up for a desperation type situation surrounding the QB spot. Edited August 25, 2021 by SemperFeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Are you saying that Brett Rypien isn't the guy? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 52 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: The abilities of Fields and Jones cover the entire gamut of styles of offense that you’d look to run, so if they didn’t that they would be able to run the offense, but they thought Lock or Bridgewater could, I’d seriously question their ability to evaluate talent. Not to mention, that they should be adjusting their scheme to best fit the players, especially the QB. But it also goes well beyond Fields and Jones. The Broncos didn’t draft any QB to try and develop for the future, which tells me that Paton did not learn from the Ponder fiasco. The Ponder fiasco wasn’t a fiasco because they drafted Ponder. It was a fiasco because of poor roster management (not drafting a development QB while Favre was here, and entering the draft with zero QBs on the roster), and then over drafting Ponder. Ironically. Denver is setting themselves up for something similar, as Drew Lock is the only QB they have under contract beyond this season, and they just announced that he’s not their guy. Setting themselves up for a desperation type situation surrounding the QB spot. Teddy will be fine in Denver for a couple of reasons. (1) The Broncos have an elite or at least very good defense. Teddy's strength is his ability to protect the ball. (2) The Broncos offensive scheme fits Teddy's skill set much better than the Panthers ever did. He has receivers who are just as good as Carolinas and a better offensive line to play behind. You can't trust Lock NOT to throw the boneheaded pick, which puts the defense on it's heels and could tire out the strength of the team. As good as the front seven of the Denver defense is, they don't have a whole lot of trustworthy depth if they have to be on the field more. Teddy will throw picks, but he's much smarter with the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 17 hours ago, SemperFeist said: The abilities of Fields and Jones cover the entire gamut of styles of offense that you’d look to run, so if they didn’t that they would be able to run the offense, but they thought Lock or Bridgewater could, I’d seriously question their ability to evaluate talent. Not to mention, that they should be adjusting their scheme to best fit the players, especially the QB. But it also goes well beyond Fields and Jones. The Broncos didn’t draft any QB to try and develop for the future, which tells me that Paton did not learn from the Ponder fiasco. The Ponder fiasco wasn’t a fiasco because they drafted Ponder. It was a fiasco because of poor roster management (not drafting a development QB while Favre was here, and entering the draft with zero QBs on the roster), and then over drafting Ponder. Ironically. Denver is setting themselves up for something similar, as Drew Lock is the only QB they have under contract beyond this season, and they just announced that he’s not their guy. Setting themselves up for a desperation type situation surrounding the QB spot. Webb was on the roster as a QB. We should change the thread title by taking out Bradford and adding Heinicke, the #2 QB with the Redskins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I'd ask for the thread title to be changed but the person who created it refuses to respond to me anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said: I'd ask for the thread title to be changed but the person who created it refuses to respond to me anymore. No one cares enough about Heinicke to bother. I don't think we'll be adding Browning to this list either anytime soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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