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Just looking at the game logs for Wright and Treadwell, they're pretty similar, except Treadwell put up his stats on roughly twice as many snaps. However, in the playoffs the snap counts flipped and Wright outsnapped Treadwell 38-15 in both games and caught 3 passes on 6 targets in each game.

Were we showcasing Wright, hoping for a trade? Moot point now, but just find it interesting.

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2 hours ago, Klomp said:

Just looking at the game logs for Wright and Treadwell, they're pretty similar, except Treadwell put up his stats on roughly twice as many snaps. However, in the playoffs the snap counts flipped and Wright outsnapped Treadwell 38-15 in both games and caught 3 passes on 6 targets in each game.

Were we showcasing Wright, hoping for a trade? Moot point now, but just find it interesting.

Pretty sure the discrepancy in snap count, during the regular season, was mainly due to Treadwell’s ability to block in the run game. 

 

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Ok so we have all been thinking about how all our early round picks have had a “plan” to be signed long term. How to keep our team together.

Do we really think Rick and B had a plan so sign Diggs to the large contract he is about to get? Or did they expect that contract to probably be closer to what Thielen just got. Did Thielen get, “ Diggs” contract? Are we going to have to rush and give Diggs, “Treadwells” contract that they probably planned for in the future?

 

Hard to imagine they had planned for a 5th round receiver and UDFA to find the success they did.

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2 hours ago, gopherwrestler said:

Ok so we have all been thinking about how all our early round picks have had a “plan” to be signed long term. How to keep our team together.

Do we really think Rick and B had a plan so sign Diggs to the large contract he is about to get? Or did they expect that contract to probably be closer to what Thielen just got. Did Thielen get, “ Diggs” contract? Are we going to have to rush and give Diggs, “Treadwells” contract that they probably planned for in the future?

 

Hard to imagine they had planned for a 5th round receiver and UDFA to find the success they did.

No, but after drafting Patterson and Treadwell in the 1st round, signing Jennings and trading for Wallace, you can bet they didn’t expect to have the entire WR corps taking up barely $10M in cap space as it did last year. 

They will need to give Thielen more money and more guaranteed money, if he continues to outplay the extension he signed last year, but they should be able to handle that in ways that don’t change his existing cap hits much. Last year, Griffen and Joseph got extensions with 2 years left on their current deals that offered more guaranteed money and up front money, but didn’t change the 2017 cap hits and only bumped up the 2018 cap hits modestly. A similar approach to Thielen would have him counting $5M against the cap in 2019 (as he does currently) and maybe $8-9M in 2020 (up from $6M currently), before kicking up to closer to market level in 2021 and beyond. 

Those numbers leave a lot of room for Diggs. They can offer him a big, long term extension this year, load a significant chunk of it onto this year’s cap and much of the rest of the guaranteed money onto 2019-2020. His cap hits could be fairly high and they’d be married to him for at least 3 more years, but given how productive he’s been at the age of 24, that doesn’t seem like a bad thing.

From 2021 on, Diggs and Thielen would be expensive, but their contracts would be mostly non guaranteed so there’d be flexibility if the team needs to renegotiate or move on from one of them. Worst thing that would happen is that they’d have 2 very good WRs under contract for big cap hits, because if they weren’t very good those cap numbers could be lowered or eliminated. Thielen will be 31 and Diggs 28 in 2021, so who knows how things will work out by then. Hard to plan for more than a 3 year window anyway.

Assuming Treadwell doesn’t earn his 5th year option (clearly not on track for that right now), and they don’t sign a high level UFA, their depth WRs in 2020 would all be cheaper draft picks or UDFA like Cayleb Jones. So even with a full priced extension for Diggs, their WR total cap hit would only be in the $20M ballpark in 2019 and 2020, cheaper for instance than Adams and Cobb are costing the Packers this year.

 

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Wright was the third receiver off the board in 2012, behind Justin Blackmon and Michael Floyd, who were the fifth and 13th overall picks. Wright was drafted just three spots ahead of current Vikings tackle Riley Reiff, selected by the Lions, and nine spots ahead of Minnesota drafting Harrison Smith. He joins a handful of new teammates who also were part of the 2012 rookie class, including fellow free agent additions Cousins (102nd overall) and Compton (193rd overall).

After playing with Robert Griffin III at Baylor, Wright went on to play with an assortment of starting quarterbacks at the NFL level … nine, to be exact. Over his five seasons in Tennessee, seven different quarterbacks started for the Titans, including Jake Locker, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Hasselbeck, former Vikings QB Matt Cassel and current Titans QB Marcus Mariota. With the Bears in 2017, Wright started the season with Mike Glennon under center before rookie Mitchell Trubisky was promoted for the final 12 games.

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/5-Things-to-Know-About-New-Vikings-WR-Kendall-Wright/e3b15474-e9b7-4103-89dd-40d3c9f4e77d

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Fifty-one of Wright's 82 targets came while he was lined up as a slot receiver last season, according to Pro Football Focus. He caught 41 of those passes in the slot with just one drop, good for an 80.4 catch rate that was the highest in the league from the position.

He ran a modest 4.61-second 40-yard dash coming out of college, and was targeted with only four passes of 20 yards or more last season, with one catch on those throws. If Wright can give the Vikings more production from the slot, though, he'll make it harder for defenses to key on Diggs and Thielen, while adding another target for Cousins on the throws over the middle that new offensive coordinator John DeFilippo often saw his quarterbacks make in the Eagles' offense.

http://www.startribune.com/vikings-sign-kendall-wright-loading-up-the-receiver-corps-led-by-adam-thielen-stefon-diggs/478411353/

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It’s a bit skewed to say that Wright ran a 4.61 forty-yard dash coming out of college. Yes, he ran 4.61 at the combine, but he followed that up with a 4.42 at his pro day. That much discrepancy between two runs, it’s pretty obvious that he just had a bad day at the combine. 

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