Mike Pettine Defense

[cannondale]

PPG is the only defensive stat that matters

[BrettFavre004]

There is no only one stat that matters other than Super Bowl victories in a season.

 

PPG can certainly be influenced by special teams and offensive turnovers.  Like Kizer throwing to the ball to Mack, the refs blowing a call on a punt when doesn't touch King, and Aaron fumbling at the 10 yard line.  Even then, with those, still 10th in points allowed per game.  Still a reason to be hopeful.   Not saying they are good, just a reason this D might be different.

 

 

Made absolutely no conclusions from it, just stated that it can be a reason for hope that our defense might not be same defense of the last 7 years.

[Arthur Penske]

15 minutes ago, BrettFavre004 said:

Will obviously only last for approximately ten more hours, but still pretty uplifting to see despite not 'playing well'. 

Stiffen up in the red zone, end some penalties, but potential this defense might not be our downfall this year.

 

well, I like this but I feel like the /G should be the highlighted column since the Packers have played one less game.

[packfanfb]

2 hours ago, Outpost31 said:

Only way McCarthy gets fired is if we miss the playoffs, and I don't see that happening with the Niners, Dolphins, Seahawks, Cardinals, Falcons, Bears, Jets and Lions on the schedule.  It is possible though.  Drop one more against a team we should beat and it could become a very tough chore to sneak into the playoffs with the Vikings and Bears also challenging for the division. 

If we don't make the playoffs, it is a complete and total reset and everything will change.  Maybe if Pettine had been with us for a few years and had success in spite of our other failures he'd stick around, but if we lose McCarthy, we're losing Pettine, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. 

I think a one-and-done in the playoffs means an exit for MM. This will be (and should be) the year where simply "getting to the playoffs" isn't enough. 

[BrettFavre004]

We've currently played the same number of games as San Francisco and any of the teams who've already had a bye week.

[MacReady]

Just now, BrettFavre004 said:

We've currently played the same number of games as San Francisco and any of the teams who've already had a bye week.

Thanks. 

[incognito_man]

38 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said:

well, I like this but I feel like the /G should be the highlighted column since the Packers have played one less game.

Still 4th

[eyecatcher]

1 minute ago, incognito_man said:

Still 4th

And would be 1st if the refs didn't screw us against MN

 

[skibrett15]

What you said

2 hours ago, CWood21 said:

Right now, our defense is playing at an NFL-caliber championship level IF our offense is playing up to their usual standards.

What you mean:

"Right now, our defense is playing at an average NFL level, which would be good enough to be a championship defense if our offense reverted to being one of the best of all time"

Stop handicapping the defenses deficiencies on the offense.  The stats don't even remotely back that up.  Our offense faces poor starting field position, surrender fewer than average turnovers, are average in TOP, and are just about average in points and yards per drive.

When adjusted for opponent, the offense is slightly above average, with the 13th ranked pass offense and 7th ranked rushing offense per FO and facing the 9th hardest schedule.

2 hours ago, CWood21 said:

 If the offense plays as well as it has in the past, we'd be probably talking about going into this game 4-1 instead of 2-2-1.  

And if the defense played better the same would be true.

[skibrett15]

9 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

Still 4th

And still a meaningless stat.  Hard to give up yards when your opponents drives start on the 1.

[BrettFavre004]

Certainly isn't meaningless, it is highly correlatable, but without further context won't give a full picture. Still back to the point, not using it to determine if this D is good right now or not, but a reason for hope that this isn't the same D that has pretty much ended every January we've been in since the Super Bowl.

[incognito_man]

58 minutes ago, skibrett15 said:

And still a meaningless stat.  Hard to give up yards when your opponents drives start on the 1.

Well that's one extra used the opposition shouldn't get anyway.

So we're even better than 4th!

(I also don't give two craps about yards though)

[AlexGreen#20]

2 hours ago, cannondale said:

PPG is the only defensive stat that matters

PP Drive is better

[Arthur Penske]

1 hour ago, incognito_man said:

Still 4th

Oh I know. And that's good. But also why I said' I'd prefer it that way. Not that it was meaningless.

[JBURGE]

19 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

2 hours ago, cannondale said:

PPG is the only defensive stat that matters

PP Drive is better

my PP is always the smallest