Joe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I don't think you move on from Fackrell unless he gets hurt in camp and/or stinks it up. I'm worried we're jumping to conclusions on some of these guys too fast before seeing them in a new defense. We can all agree that Dom had to go, but at least let's give some of these guys a shot in a new defense before we rush to judgment. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joe said: I don't think you move on from Fackrell unless he gets hurt in camp and/or stinks it up. I'm worried we're jumping to conclusions on some of these guys too fast before seeing them in a new defense. We can all agree that Dom had to go, but at least let's give some of these guys a shot in a new defense before we rush to judgment. JMO Completely agree. There's no sense cutting guys at this point based solely on how they functioned under Capers. Let's see them in camp first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Kepler said: Completely agree. There's no sense cutting guys at this point based solely on how they functioned under Capers. Let's see them in camp first. I am fine with putting him on the 90 and being a camp body. But what has he shown to warrant defensive snaps over guys like Gilbert/Biegel? Pass rushing ability is going to magically appear because of d coordinator. The only thing Pettine could do is get him free runs at the QB. The guy has 5 sacks in 29 career games and is already 26 years old. If he were younger I may give him the benefit of the doubt a little more but he is nothing more than a special teamer at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, TheBitzMan said: I am fine with putting him on the 90 and being a camp body. But what has he shown to warrant defensive snaps over guys like Gilbert/Biegel? Pass rushing ability is going to magically appear because of d coordinator. The only thing Pettine could do is get him free runs at the QB. The guy has 5 sacks in 29 career games and is already 26 years old. If he were younger I may give him the benefit of the doubt a little more but he is nothing more than a special teamer at this point. I understand that wholeheartedly, but I question how certain players were used under Dom. I do agree that TC is tantamount to the future of some players, especially guys like Gilbert who deserved a better look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheBitzMan said: I am fine with putting him on the 90 and being a camp body. But what has he shown to warrant defensive snaps over guys like Gilbert/Biegel? Pass rushing ability is going to magically appear because of d coordinator. The only thing Pettine could do is get him free runs at the QB. The guy has 5 sacks in 29 career games and is already 26 years old. If he were younger I may give him the benefit of the doubt a little more but he is nothing more than a special teamer at this point. That's my point. He SHOULD be a camp body at least. Everyone who suffered under Capers should be, if for no other reason than to find out if they have some ability that was being squandered. Coaching is a huge aspect of the game. People don't pop out of the womb ready to dominate. I'm not saying he'll get better, but there's no reason to dump a guy because he didn't flourish as a backup under the dumpster fire that is Dom Capers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, Kepler said: That's my point. He SHOULD be a camp body at least. Everyone who suffered under Capers should be, if for no other reason than to find out if they have some ability that was being squandered. Coaching is a huge aspect of the game. People don't pop out of the womb ready to dominate. I'm not saying he'll get better, but there's no reason to dump a guy because he didn't flourish as a backup under the dumpster fire that is Dom Capers. Casey Hayward, Micah Hyde, Lawrence Guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joe said: Casey Hayward, Micah Hyde, Lawrence Guy... Did guy even make our team when we drafted him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: If the guy ever gets stronger, he could be decent. (Just an excuse to put this gif in here ) With the frames per second on that gif he looks like he runs a 4.2 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, NormSizedMidget said: With the frames per second on that gif he looks like he runs a 4.2 though Fastest LB in the league. MARK IT DOWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Gopackgonerd said: Did guy even make our team when we drafted him Practice Squad. He did play in 3 or 4 games late his rookie season IIRC, but then someone snatched him off our PS. Think it was Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankman0021 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Just now, NormSizedMidget said: With the frames per second on that gif he looks like he runs a 4.2 though He does run a 4.2. The RT also did 783 reps on the bench press. Trade for him nowwwwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, TheBitzMan said: Definitely not his fault. More of a failure on Dom or TT or MM or who ever decided it. I am sure he is a great guy but he has done nothing to warrant the playing time. Not arguing that a bit. Agree. I just don't bother cutting him before camp is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joe said: Casey Hayward, Micah Hyde, Lawrence Guy... The list of guys who left and continued to not be good is much longer...Sometimes a guy just doesn't have it (I think Fackrell is one of those guys) Khyri Thornton Jerel Worthy Carl Bradford Josh Boyd Terrell Manning Jerron McMillan Davon House Jarius Wynn Jeremy Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, TheBitzMan said: The list of guys who left and continued to not be good is much longer...Sometimes a guy just doesn't have it (I think Fackrell is one of those guys) Khyri Thornton Jerel Worthy Carl Bradford Josh Boyd Terrell Manning Jerron McMillan Davon House Jarius Wynn Jeremy Thompson I don't think House belongs with those guys. It also took Guy eternity to become a player from the other side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBitzMan Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 minute ago, NormSizedMidget said: I don't think House belongs with those guys. It also took Guy eternity to become a player from the other side of it. House is definitely the best of the bunch. It was more in reference to him leaving GB and not getting better because of coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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