DizzyDean Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I do not, this is a great QB class with several options, because of that, the transcendent talent does not make it to 4. I like some of the QB prospects even that could be had in round 2. Barkley at 1, then Allen or Mayfield will be there at 4 (My 2 picks at QB), let the team pick their choice. If by some strange event, both are gone, then Ward, Chubb, Nelson (if Bitonio can move to Left Tackle), or trade the pick down for a kings ransom to some team that is willing to grossly overpay for a project QB (Darnold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I think picks 1,2, & 3 all end up QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, DizzyDean said: I do not, this is a great QB class with several options, because of that, the transcendent talent does not make it to 4. I like some of the QB prospects even that could be had in round 2. Barkley at 1, then Allen or Mayfield will be there at 4 (My 2 picks at QB), let the team pick their choice. If by some strange event, both are gone, then Ward, Chubb, Nelson (if Bitonio can move to Left Tackle), or trade the pick down for a kings ransom to some team that is willing to grossly overpay for a project QB (Darnold). Only way you can argue that Barkley is gone by 4 is if the Giants take him at 2. Jets didn't trade up to 3 for a RB. If we don't take him at one and the Jets don't at 3, then the only chance he is taken before 4 is by the Giants. If you insist on taking Barkley at least be smart about it. Take top choice at QB at 1 and Barkley at 4. Generational talent doesn't override logic and sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDean Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, Fatgerman said: Only way you can argue that Barkley is gone by 4 is if the Giants take him at 2. Jets didn't trade up to 3 for a RB. If we don't take him at one and the Jets don't at 3, then the only chance he is taken before 4 is by the Giants. If you insist on taking Barkley at least be smart about it. Take top choice at QB at 1 and Barkley at 4. Generational talent doesn't override logic and sense. Giants would either take him at 2, or trade down to a smart team willing to sell the farm for such an immense talent. Either way, he does not make it to 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDean Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 I also would not bet that the Jets would not take him. They have McCown to start this year, and a young Bridgewater to take over in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, DizzyDean said: Giants would either take him at 2, or trade down to a smart team willing to sell the farm for such an immense talent. Either way, he does not make it to 4. Holy God, man. Did Barkley cure cancer when I wasn't looking? Does he have the ability to take flight? Dude, you must be Dizzy! I get it, you're in love. But even you gotta know what you just wrote here was nonsense. Giants might take him, or a QB. Good chance they even trade back, but the team trading up to 2 is taking a QB. Not RB, QB. You know this. Before, you said he'll dominate next 12 years and win many championships. This is pure crazed hyperbole. RBs last about 7-10 years max, even the GOAT Jim Brown. RBs just don't run you to multiple championships. QBs throw you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, DizzyDean said: I also would not bet that the Jets would not take him. They have McCown to start this year, and a young Bridgewater to take over in the future. You would then lose the opportunity to win a bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, DizzyDean said: I also would not bet that the Jets would not take him. They have McCown to start this year, and a young Bridgewater to take over in the future. LoL... Ok, buddy. Make sure you get a designated driver tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Fatgerman said: SMH I don't think I love my wife as much as you love Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roshi Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Fatgerman said: I'm guessing he's drinking whilst watching Barkley highlights on Youtube lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 I don’t see as much value in Chubb for us as I do Barkley. We have Ogbah and Garret who I think both take a leap forward this year, I won’t be surprised if they both get ten sacks. Where as Hyde is a ok RB but not great and gets injured fairly often. i won’t hate a Chubb pick I just won’t like it as much as Barkley. For me what we have done with trades and Free agency is allow ourselves not to force any picks. Best QB at 1 BPA all the way after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: I don’t see as much value in Chubb for us as I do Barkley. We have Ogbah and Garret who I think both take a leap forward this year, I won’t be surprised if they both get ten sacks. Where as Hyde is a ok RB but not great and gets injured fairly often. i won’t hate a Chubb pick I just won’t like it as much as Barkley. For me what we have done with trades and Free agency is allow ourselves not to force any picks. Best QB at 1 BPA all the way after that I agree that we've given ourselves the ability to pick and choose without overwhelming need dictating our choice. That is how FA is meant to be utilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, hornbybrown said: Wait you are trying to tell me those guys lead their teams to Super Bowls? and they wouldn’t of made it without them? In almost every case except maybe the ravens it was the QB that got them there That seems like reasonably unfair criteria. Most of those guys had a positive impact on their teams. So it is a pretty reasonable list. That said bpa, I'm in two minds about Barkley, if he is the next great rb take him. If he is limited to being an amazing 3rd down back like Reggie Bush take someone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDean Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Fatgerman said: SMH I don't think I love my wife as much as you love Barkley Well in all fairness, Barkley is likely more feminine and better looking than your wife :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDean Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Fatgerman said: Holy God, man. Did Barkley cure cancer when I wasn't looking? Does he have the ability to take flight? Dude, you must be Dizzy! I get it, you're in love. But even you gotta know what you just wrote here was nonsense. Giants might take him, or a QB. Good chance they even trade back, but the team trading up to 2 is taking a QB. Not RB, QB. You know this. Before, you said he'll dominate next 12 years and win many championships. This is pure crazed hyperbole. RBs last about 7-10 years max, even the GOAT Jim Brown. RBs just don't run you to multiple championships. QBs throw you there. Jim Brown walked away while still playing at a high level, know your Browns history, he wanted to go into acting so he left the game. Now granted, he is a shell of his former self, but Adrian Peterson is going on a decade plus. Frank Gore is entering year 13 and had nearly 1000 yards last year with no oline and a crappy team. Barry Sanders walked away still playing at an extremely high level after 10 seasons. Emmit Smith 15 seasons, Marshall Faulk, 12 seasons. Tomlinson11 seasons. Brian Westbrook even played 9 seasons. Byner 14 seasons. Jerome Bettis 13 seasons. Are you starting to realize just how foolish you sound saying that there is no way a RB will last 12 years? Would you like more examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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