bucsfan333 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 CROWN US THE OFFSEASON WINNERS AGAIN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderX Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Tampa really came out of this trade with a BANG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Should be a handy acquisition for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indifference Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Licht must of got intel that Chubb was not going past pick 6. Rather give up a third for JPP than to throw multiple picks away for Bradley Chubb. Although he will be a good player wherever he lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: Was just looking up dead money. That's a pretty big chunk of change. It is; Giants only save 2.5 million on this years cap thanks to the 15 million in dead money. However, for next year now, regardless of what happens with Eli, we have the money to sign Landon Collins and OBJ, the 2 homegrown cornerstones on offense and defense, to long term deals. That is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, minutemancl said: We hired James Bettcher, former Arizona DC, to be our DC. He utilizes a blitz heavy, attacking, one gap 3-4 base defense. I was wondering where JPP would fit in. Olivier Vernon is better rushing the passer from a 2 point stance than a 3 point stance and is fast enough to play one OLB spot. The closest fit JPP had was as a 5 technique, but even then he is a little undersized for that. Guess the Giants thought the same thing. Given his contract, the compensation is decent. Then why trade for Alec Ogletree, who struggled in the 3-4 last year? Kinda puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Should be a handy acquisition for them. Yeah, JPP singlehandedly made thier pass rush better..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, TheKillerNacho said: Then why trade for Alec Ogletree, who struggled in the 3-4 last year? Kinda puzzling. Wade had him playing inside. I think the Giants plan on playing him outside. Nothing is certain yet, but from what Ive heard and put together, I think Bettcher really desired the blitzing prowess and sideline to sideline speed and chase down ability that Ogletree has. It is a little puzzling, but Bettcher knows what kind of players he needs for his defense to work, and a few months ago he briefed the entire Giants front offense for multiple hours about it as well. All defensive acquisitions, or subtractions, have a very specific motive behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Mixed feelings about this It's good for the team but it's sad that he couldn't have a long, healthy career with us. I guess we'll always have 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, indifference said: Licht must of got intel that Chubb was not going past pick 6. Rather give up a third for JPP than to throw multiple picks away for Bradley Chubb. Although he will be a good player wherever he lands. Maybe they want to draft Quenton Nelson or Saquon Barkley at #7. Even if Chubb wasn't going to be there, Davenport would have been. 5 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Wade had him playing inside. I think the Giants plan on playing him outside. From what I understand, Wade had Ogletree playing more as a run stopper which wasn't his forte and the Giants will probably use him in the Haasan Reddick inside/outside role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesDawgDX Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Is it crazy that I think the Giants are more likely to trade down after this? Be it to 5, 11, or 12. I don't think this locks Chubb in at 2 is all I'm getting at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BowlesDawgDX said: Is it crazy that I think the Giants are more likely to trade down after this? Be it to 5, 11, or 12. I don't think this locks Chubb in at 2 is all I'm getting at No, but it makes taking Chubb at 1.2 entirely justifiable. And, no I don't think Tampa had any shot at Chubb at 1.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, BowlesDawgDX said: Is it crazy that I think the Giants are more likely to trade down after this? Be it to 5, 11, or 12. I don't think this locks Chubb in at 2 is all I'm getting at I think trade down was always potentially a move and still is. I'm not sure this trade means it is more or less likely to happen now, though. If anything, with an added third round pick, this makes trading up back into the tail end of the first more likely if we pass on a QB early and Lamar Jackson is available late day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDotNova Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I really can't see the Giants trading back with Buffalo/Miami/Arizona. There's a difference between the players being projected to go in the top 8 vs. those projected go after. Same reason why the Colts didn't want to trade too far back. The Colts will still get a premium player. Have to imagine the Giants feel the same way. The Giants are either picking a player at 2 or they are trading back with the Broncos. Do the Broncos want to trade up? There haven't been many rumors of them looking to trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I like this trade for Tampa. He should come in and immediately add some explosiveness to that defensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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