Chwf3rd25 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Qualifiers 1. If someone isn't listed then I haven't watched them yet 2. I dont factor in character or injury issues as I dont have enough information to properly judge its relevance 3. I try to not take into account positional value, so while I have Isaiah Wynn ranked above Baker Mayfield I would still draft Baker over Wynn. QB 1. Josh Rosen, UCLA - Top 5 Perfect mechanics, gamer in crunch time, strong arm to fit balls into tight windows, throws with anticipation, tough and stays in pocket to last second 2. Sam Darnold, USC - Top 10 playmaker w/ scramble ability, sufficient arm strength, flashes great accuracy in tight windows, elongated motion, accurate on the move w/ touch, accurate deep ball 3. Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma - Round 1 russell wilson like playmaking ability, tough, awesome on the run keeping eyes downfield, accurate deep ball, shrugs off defenders from within pocket and keeps eyes downfield 4. Josh Allen, Wyoming - Round 2 huge arm, big and mobile in the pocket breaking tackles and extending plays, ability to make extraordinary throws, great on the run, lacks touch & tries to rifle everything, leaves the pocket too early, looks slow on his reads 5. Lamar Jackson, Louisville - Round 2 elite athlete, good arms w/ solid deep ball accuracy, hits crossing routes with accuracy, bad mechanics & footwork, misses outside throws, skinny RB 1. Saquon Barkley, Penn St - Top 5 Great Burst, amazing lateral agility + quickness, power to run through arm tackles, good patience, great balance, when hit falls forward 2. Derrius Guice, LSU - Top 20 super powerful, tough runner, good patience/vision, breakaway speed, runs through arm tackles/legs churning, awesome balance, good lateral agility, vision issues @ times - will try to run over defender instead of going around 3. Ronald Jones, USC - Round 1 speed/quickness jumps off screen, explodes through hole, surprising balance, good vision, avoids first tackler via laterial cut, quick accelerator, tough runner, 4. John Kelly, Tennessee - Round 2 quick twitch, elite balance through contact, awesome laterally, great jump cut, showed more deciveness in hitting hole w/ immediacey and power in 2017, not kind of runner who will hit hold hard w/ power/force, tough, questionable long speed, excellent WR, dances too much 5. Mark Walton, Miami - Round 2/3 looks totally different pre ankle injury, ridiculous lateral agility and twitchiness, incredibly explosive, really tough inside runner, good pass pro, great receiver, small & not great straight line speed 6. Kerryon Johnson, Auburn - Round 2/3 awesome balance and patience, powerful, some wiggle but not great laterally, falls forward, downhill runner, high-cut, patient running style, dances too much behind LOS - needs to hit hole harder once it immediately opens, more smooth than explosive 7. Sony Michel, Georgia - Round 3 strong explosive downhill runner, good long speed, not much wiggle, one cut and explodes up field w/ speed & power 8. Rashaad Penny, San Diego St - Round 3 awesome vision, runs too high, smoothly bounces forward off cut/subtle elusiveness, bad pass pro, falls forward, runs through arm tackles, not particularly powerful, not a great athlete 9. Nick Chubb, Georgia - Round 3 big north-south runner, shows some patience, little creativity, not very explosive, lacks lateral ability, great vision to see the right hole but lacks explosion to take advantage, good straight line speed, hard to tackle 10. Royce Freeman, Oregon - Round 3/4 Shifty, very quick + explosive, good balance to absorb first hit, great vision, zone runner, sufficient long speed, not great power: a little soft 11. Jordan Wilkins, Ole Miss - Day 3 big and powerful inside runner, good pad level, nice jump cut, good straight line speed, great vision & patience, one cut explosion 12. Josh Adams, Notre Dame - Day 3 keeps legs churning on contact, big + tall, no wiggle/lateral agility, decent balance, good vision, not great athlete, benefitted from great OL, , can make himself small through creases 13. Ito Smith, Southern Miss - Day 3 juke stick movement, crazy explosion, tiny, excellent patience/vision, good receiver 14. Nyheim Hines, NC State - Day 3 tiny, super quick, no power/pop, not incredibly smooth laterally but shows some balance, elite speed, KR/PR, crazy explosion, more athlete than RB 15. Bo Scarbrough, Alabama - Day 3 Big + tall runner, north-south power, falls forward, not fluid, good balance, awesome long speed, looks very explosive last year 16. Chase Edmonds, Fordham - Day 3 small, tough, quick - makes small cuts to evade tackle, decent balance, bounces outside way too much 17. Roc Thomas, Jacksonville St - Day 3 awesome jump cut, one cut explosion, falls forward, puts shoulder down w/ pop + violence, legs churn to generate YAC, awesome lateral ability 18. Kalen Ballage, Arizona St - Day 3 size/speed, good hands, goes down easily in open field, little creativity, slow laterally, explosive in straight line, uses size well and churns legs for extra yards in traffic 19. Akrum Wadley, Iowa - Day 3 small, quick, slithery lateral movement makes guys miss, not great athlete, good patience/vision WR 1. Calvin Ridley, Alabama - Round 1 quickness & fluidity jumps out, easy mover, explodes off line, great speed, excellent route runner, lacks prototypical WR1 size, solid YAC 2. DJ Moore, Maryland - Round 2 twitchy movements, short and thick, very good long speed, great ball skills, physical on routes, uses exceptional quickness to separate fast, strong hands, great YAC, technical route runner, tough over the middle, physical runner after catch 3. Courtland Sutton, SMU - Round 2 huge w/ good YAC using both speed & power, route running: not sharp + doesn’t change up speeds + doesn’t explode out of breaks, uses size to shield defenders on jump balls, not great hands, not asked to run a huge variety of routes but made plays from slot occasionally 4. Anthony Miller, Memphis - Round 2 physical, good hands catcher, quick but not very fast, awesome vs press, beats CBs off line of scrimage, awesome YAC, awesome route runner, makes contested catches, my ball mentality 5. Christian Kirk, Texas A&M - Round 2 explosive + super fast, great YAC - like RB w/ ball in hands, sturdy build, good KR, easily separates, explosive off line, awesome long speed to beat DBs deep, solid route runner who changes up speeds nicely, never see him deal w/ press - maybe just a slot guy 6. Antonio Callaway, Florida - Round 2/3 Sudden & explosive out of cuts, good hands catcher, easy separator, KR/PR, huge deep threat, mostly screens/gos/crossing routes but shows natural route running ability (ie quickness out of cuts and changing up speeds) 7. Cedrick Wilson, Boise St - Round 3/4 explosive off line, speed ?, deep ball tracking ability, great YAC, ability to make jump ball catch on sideline, explosive, may struggle to separate vs press 8. Michael Gallup, Colorado St - Round 3/4 strong hands in traffic, crisp routes, good hand fighting to create quick separation, quick off line, sufficient speed, subtle movements to create separation at stem 9. Allen Lazard, Iowa St - Round 3/4 excellent attacking ball in air w/ body frame, boxes out DBs, lots of back shoulders, smooth routes for size, played in slot + outside, adjusts well to ball, not quick or sudden, works well in intermediate areas 10. Equanimeous St. Brown, Notre Dame - Round 3/4 Height & long arms gives him opportunities, ok YAC, adjusts to ball well in air, excellent jump ball WR, catches w/ body too often, some separation issues, solid route runner, explodes off line 11. Dante Pettis, Washington - Round 3/4 not very explosive, high points ball, great hands, smooth route runner, gets off press w/ good hand fighting, works his way back towards the ball, needs to add strength, weirdly little YAC even though great PR 12. James Washington, Oklahoma St - Round 4 strange build w/ short torso and long legs, great speed & deep ball tracking, makes contested catches, gets off press well 13. DJ Chark, LSU - Round 4 size/speed, doesn’t explode off line, routes not crisp, long lean frame w/ elite deep speed, PR/KR, body catches 14. Deon Cain, Clemson - Round 4 explosive athlete, great YAC, deep threat 15. Darren Carrington, Utah - Round 4/5 tall & lanky, played ouside + slot, good jump ball catcher + contested catcher, struggles to separate deep, YAC, natural hands catcher, great footwork on sideline, strong hands 16. TreQuan Smith, UCF - Round 4/5 ability to go up and get ball in traffic, decent YAC, drops, gets off press well, smooth 17. DaeSean Hamilton, Penn St - Day 3 plays a lot in slot, awesome routes creates separation easily on quick and intermediate throws, ok speed, ability to make over the shoulder and contested catches 18. Keke Coutee, Texas Tech - Day 3 short and small, very quick, solid YAC, KR/PR, great speed, slot WR, lots of screens and plays at RB 19. Auden Tate, Florida St - Day 3 looks like a giant, highpoints ball w/ hands extremely well, uses his body well to shield the DB, struggles to separate but uses body to make contested catches, struggles w/ physical CBs, highlight reel catches 20. Jordan Lasley, UCLA - Day 3 quick + twitchy, lots of drops, crips routes, lots of YAC 21. J'Mon Moore, Missouri - Day 3 jump ball WR, not asked to run complex routes a lot but showed route running nuance vs Auburn, very good YAC, consistently picks up YAC 22. Richie James, Middle Tennessee St - Day 3 tiny, quick twitch, YAC, slot, drops, mostly short throws + screens + handoffs + YAC, shows ability to make over shoulder catch on deep balls, can make some acrobatic catches 23. Simmie Cobbs, Indiana - Day 3 looks slow, uses big body well to shield defender, jump balls/back shoulders/slants, good hands & ball skills, mediocre YAC, strong hands, separation issues 24. Marcell Ateman, Oklahoma St - Day 3 looks smooth in/out of routes & off line, contested catcher, attacks ball in air w/ hands 25. Jaleel Scott, New Mexico St - Day 3 jump ball WR, body catcher if not fade pattern, good speed, tall & skinny, attacks the ball in the air TE 1. Dallas Goedert, South Dakota St - Round 1/2 explosive and smooth out of routes & off LOS, awesome hands w/ ability to make circus catches, great leaping ability, ball skills in endzone, routinely makes catches in traffic, fearless over the middle 2. Hayden Hurst, South Carolina - Round 2 awesome blocker, really good speed, strong running over defenders & using stiff arm, extremely hard to tackle, makes contested catch in traffic, strong hands 3. Mike Gesicki, Penn St - Round 2/3 good jumping ability, good footwork on sideline catches, solid route runner, can beat man coverage on safeties, decent movement skills, excellent size, awesome contested ball catcher, not very physical player, terrible blocker 4. Jaylen Samuels, NC State - Round 2/3 annoying little hop step on route, used all over: RB/TE/FB/WR, good movement skills for TE, makes catches in traffic in middle of field, super productive, YAC like RB, built like RB, great hands 5. Mark Andrews, Oklahoma - Round 3 plays a lot in the slot, poor blocker on the line, big body w/ sure hands & lots of production, great route runner w/ surprising burst, finds open areas in zone 6. Tyler Conklin, Central Michigan - Round 4 very explosive off the line, good hands catcher, blocking?, ability to make catch in traffic over middle, strong hands to go up and get ball, physical, lined up outside a lot 7. Dalton Schultz, Stanford - Round 4/5 good blocker, moves well, mostly 5 yard stick routes, uses physicality to create seperation, tough, very good blocker 8. Ian Thomas, Indiana - Day 3 played in line and slot, very solid hands, not very explosive off line but decent YAC, flashes great hands and advanced receiving skills 9. Christopher Herndon, Miami - Day 3 uses strength to get YAC, lots of screens, bad blocker, ok athlete 10. Jordan Akins, UCF - Day 3 great mover, physicality to withstand initial hit and stay upright, good route runner: manipulating speeds and sharp cuts to create separation 11. Tony Fumagali, Wisconsin - Day 3 looks super slow, great blocker, huge body, catches everything 12. Durham Smythe, Notre Dame - Day 3 strong hands, solid blocker OT 1. Connor Williams, Texas - Round 1/2 nasty, really good feet/kickslide, doesn’t move ppl in run game but effectively seals off, nasty, can get pushed back in pass pro and beaten around the edge, maintains excellent pad level, possible length issue, moves well in space and gets to 2nd level well - nasty & good feet solid all around 2. Tyrell Crosby, Oregon - Round 2 easy mover, weird back pedal, generates serious movement in run game, finishes blocks, gets to second level nicely, nasty, always blocking someone, no kickslide, poor technique allows rushers to get edge 3. Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame - Round 2 can get pushed back in pass pro, can get beaten outside and forced to ride defender around, generates movement in run game, good balance, powerful, picks up stunts well, beaten by outside moves 4. Orlando Brown, Oklahoma - Round 2/3 huge and powerful, slow moving feet forces him to lunge, powerful base, gets to 2nd level well, struggles to shift feet to match quickness, people mover, labored back pedal, plays w/ poor pad level and iffy hand placement, length gives him tons of leeway and safety net - huge/long but mirroring issues w/ slow feet 5. Brandon Parker, North Carolina A&T - Round 2/3 moves very well in space, easily controls DL w/ length and strength, strong base allows him to recover and control DL 6. Chukwuma Okorafor, Western Michigan - Round 3 beat to outside, reacts well to counters, stout against bull rushes, works his way to the 2nd level, sticks to his defender in run game, quick kickslide - huge & better feet than Brown but not as dominant in run game 7. Jamarco Jones, Ohio St - Round 3 recovers well when initially beaten, big and strong, can lose control of defender in run game due to poor hand placement on shoulders instead of chest, good job riding speed rushers around pocker (maybe makes him susceptible to inside counters), adequate but not great feet, not great mover in space 8. Austin Corbett, Nevada - Round 3 finishes, powerful punch, always blocking someone, aggressive, lots of quick sets, will stop his feet, great leverage + hand placement, always places the initial punch, not great feet on outside, doesn’t get great push but finishes, grabs and controls rather than shuffling feet, slow feet 9. Martinas Rankin, Mississippi St - Round 3 super strong can hold blocks, moves well on pulls, can get beat w/ quickness inside, no kickslide, latches onto DL and loses balance 10. Kolton Miller, UCLA - Round 3 really strong base, very quick feet to mirror @ times, awesome push in run game, finisher, can over extend and get beaten, plays too high and gives up leverage, can get beaten by inside counters by speed rushers, can get bulled into QBs lap (A&M), Texas A&M is a **** show, inconsistent 11. Brian O'Neill, Pittsburgh - Round 3 super athletic, gets to 2nd level w/ ease, meets speed rushers on edge, big strength issue: will get pushed back by bull rush, susceptible to inside counters, will sprint back in stance instead of smoothly backpedaling, struggles controlling blocker in run game, very bad run blocker 12. Geron Christian, Louisville - Round 4/5 shallow drop step, good feet, great job getting up to 2nd level, will miss w/ initial punch, can get pushed back by initial jolt but recovers decently well, poor pad level - stands up too straight, off balance a lot, consistently poor pad level and hand placement causes issues 13. Joseph Noteboom, TCU - Round 4/5 moves well in space, rides speed rushers around edge, generates movement in run game, trouble latching onto DL at times, trouble anchoring and can get beat to outside shoulder, can get pushed into pocket by speed to power 14. Will Richardson, North Carolina St - Round 4/5 college RT, big body, can over commit and lose balance, good leverage in run game, struggled to mirror Sweat w/ shuffle, struggles to meet speed on edge, recovers to ride rusher around edge, solid base, always initiates hands, can get beaten by quickness inside 15. Cole Madison, Washington St - Day 3 college RT, atrocious backpedal, struggles to anchor leads to getting bulled, moves well, extends arms and maintains good pad level, awful backpedal allows DL to get the edge, looks ugly but gets the job done most of the time, hesitant to initiate contact OG 1. Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame - Top 5 strong base in pass pro, easily seals off DL to open lane, always finishing, pancakes all over, people mover, rare strength, not elite in space 2. Isaiah Wynn, Georgia - Top 20 strong recovery, strong base in pass pro, generates movement in run game by keeping good pad level + hand placement + driving legs, strong lower body, quickness to get to reach blocks, people mover, kept block on Josh Allen and drove him 10 yards downfield, gets to 2nd level, good transition on stunts, speed to get to edge and make block 3. Will Hernandez, UTEP - Round 1 strong and mean, easily seals off in run game, initial contact jolts DL back, generates serious movement, will struggle w/ quickness inside, massive, hand placement off at times, stands up too straight but still keeps strong base 4. Austin Corbett, Nevada - Round 1/2 finishes, powerful punch, always blocking someone, aggressive, lots of quick sets, will stop his feet, great leverage + hand placement, always places the initial punch, not great feet on outside, doesn’t get great push but finishes, grabs and controls rather than shuffling feet, slow feet, ability to hit combo blocks 5. Braden Smith, Auburn - Round 2 strength to drive DL off line and pancake, can lunge and get off balance allowing defender to shed, really strong base, gets to 2nd level, great drive power, finishes, good leverages, can get pushed back w/ bull but recovers well, can seem like he's riding the DL instead of controlling him 6. Martinas Rankin, Mississippi St - Round 3 7. Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech - Round 3 generates movement in run game, beaten by quickness across face, great on pulls, gets to 2nd level nicely, consistently gets hands inside, finisher, really good movement in space, struggles w/ quickness off snap, good but not great power, can get bull rushed 8. Salesi Uhatafe, Utah - Round 4 strugles to anchor at times, struggles w/ quickness, trouble sustaining block, inconsistent power, moves well for size, flashes great power w/ leg drive, people mover 9. Colby Gossett, Appalachian St - Round 4/5 great movement ability - gets to 2nd level w/ ease, ability to get to reach block and seal, maintains good leverage, doesn’t generate a lot of movement, can give up too much room in pass pro and tries to ride DL outside, too often not blocking anyone, elite movement 10. Alex Cappa, Humbolt St - Round 4/5 pancakes on pancakes on pancakes, very high pad level, no real kickslide, great push in running game blockind DL 10 yards downfield 11. Tony Adams, NC State - Day 3 huge and round, good leverage and leg drive, good help blocker in pass pro, ability to get to reach blocks and redirect, doesn’t get a ton of push, pushed back a lot by Wilkins, lots of struggles vs Clemson 12. Skyler Phillips, Idaho St - Day 3 extends arms well in pass pro, solid anchor, fights for inside hands, may struggle to shift feet to counter inside quickness, struggles on pulls, will miss block on 2nd level, strong punch, lets guys disengage too easily 13. Cole Madison, Washington St - Day 3 OC 1. Billy Price, Ohio St - Round 1/2 gets to 2nd level w/ speed, good base & recovery, very powerful punch, really good mover, not a mauler, can get beat by quickness (see blitzers), great pad level 2. James Daniels, Iowa - Round 2 moves incredibly well, long arms, finisher, initial jolt can push him back but anchors well to recover, susceptible to bull rushes, redirects first defender and then smoothly flows to LB 3. Frank Ragnow, Arkansas - Round 2/3 awesome strength, not great mover in space - will cause him to miss LB blocks, pad level can get a little high, strong initial punch 4. Coleman Shelton, Washington - Round 5 good length, nasty finisher, always looking for someone to block, sufficient speed to get to edge on pulls, struggled to move/control Harrison Phillips, struggles to generate movement DL 1. Maurice Hurst, Michigan - Round 1 can turn back to ball at times and lose it, sheds block to tackle ball carrier, EXPLODES off ball, can get washed in run game, good push pull move to slip by OL, on *** too much, good pad level on rush allows him to generate strong bull rush, consistently disruptive + penetration, possible issues w/ lateral movement, can get overpowered if pad level bad, motor +, awareness +, can get preoccupied w/ OL and lose sight of ball 2. Taven Bryan, Florida - Round 1 stupid explosion, speed to power, can get pushed out of running lane, on ground too often, ******* stupid speed/quickness/power, freak, can win w/ bull rush or explosion, aggression takes him out of plays at times, needs to learn to use hands better to stack and shed in run game, a little inconsistent, lost if explosion or bull doesnt work, great push/pull move 3. Vita Vea, Washington - Round 1 moves blockers back w/ bull rush w/ ease, moves well down the line of scrimmage, doesn’t get moved backwards, really nice swim move, moves surprisingly fast, generates pressure w/ bull rush, quick off ball 4. DaRon Payne, Alabama - Round 1 long arms & controls blocks & sheds easiily to make tackle, (not much pass rush), doesn’t get pushed back, gets off ball quickly, never moved backwards, awesome hand usage to keep blocks away from him, **Georgia game is top 5 tape 5. Harrison Phillips, Stanford - Round 2 doesn’t move backwards, controls blockers w/ ease, constantly active w/ hands and clubbing blockers out of his way, not explosive pass, rusher, stands up blockers w/ ease, strong bull rush makes QB uncomfortable, motor ++ 6. RJ McIntosh, Miami - Round 2 good hand fighting & spin, stacks and sheds, looks like freaky athlete, quick off ball, inconsistent motor, can get overpowered, flashes, explosive 7. Rasheem Green, USC - Round 2 uses length to stack and shed, nice bull rush, all arms and elbows, super explosive from inside, inconsistent, insufficient strength inside, awesome size 8. Justin Jones, NC State - Round 3 inconsistent explosion, good hand usage to shed blocks, awesome speed for his size, awesome bull rush, great push/pull to shed, powerful punch jolts OG, hard to move off his spot, can get blown back by doubles, not consistent pass rush 9. Derrick Nnadi, Florida St - Round 3/4 bowling ball shaped, stays active, not much pass rush, need 2 guys to move him off his spot, needs to extend arms more, a force to be reckoned w/ every play, 1 tech or nose but undersized 10. Tim Settle, Virginia Tech - Round 3/4 t-rex shaped: huge w/ big core and short limbs, very strong bull rush using strength & leverage, active hands, struggles to shed at times and can end up on ground, struggles vs double teams, flashes awesome quickness for huge size but inconsistent 11. Folorunso Fatukasi, UConn - Day 3 very quick movements, explosive off snap, active hands & energy in rush, anchors very well: difficult to move off his spot, good leverage and arm extension, no pass rush moves or plan 12. Andrew Brown, Virginia - Day 3 great burst, strong bull rush, played edge a lot and even dropped back into coverage, struggles shedding blockers in run game, really raw, no moves, wins w/ quickness + strength - needs to use hands, can get blown off line in run game 13. Poona Ford, Texas - Day 3 bowling ball shaped, never moves backwards, not explosive but low pad level helps him knife through gaps, lots of penetration, good hand usage to disengage 14. Trenton Thompson, Georgia - Day 3 pushed off ball, small legs, overpowered, lacks strength, much better in 2016, not very explosive, awesome strength vs TEN, uses length well, slithery 15. BJ Hill, NC State - Day 3 little pass rush using hands & bull, huge, uses length and hands to shed blockers and stand ground 16. Breeland Speaks, Ole Miss - Day 3 moves very well, potential strength issues: gets pushed back or out of running lane too often & struggles to get off blocks, explosive, motor & strength issues, flexibile, converts speed to power, not great playing personality: either motor or instincts or both Edge 1. Bradley Chubb, NC State - Top 5 explodes off edge, shows bend, awesome handfighting, speed to chase down LJackson, bull rush, nice long arm move, needs to work on a counter, sets strong edge in running game 2. Harold Landry, Boston College - Round 1 good bull rush w/ long arm move, easily controlled in running game, explosive off edge, consistent pressure, needs to learn inside counter, needs to extend arms and get off blocks in run game, inconsistent bend, really good closing burst to QB 3. Marcus Davenport, UTSA - Round 1 awesome strength, knocks Ots over w/ bull rush, only move is a bull rush but so strong that he consistently generates pressure, hard to move off spot, speed to get to edge, very explosive, incredible athleticism 4. Arden Key, LSU - Round 1/2 Tall & skinny w/ long arms, beats OT w/ speed, good hand fighting, struggles vs run can get beat up, great hands, super athletic and fluid, super bendy, needs to develop inside counter, struggles converting speed to power consistently, awesome explosion 5. Lorenzo Carter, Georgia - Round 2 great athlete, twitchy, asked to mush rush or play backside a lot, sheds block to make tackle, shows some bend + hand fighting in rush, explosive, needs to learn counter, looks timid on rush, sets a great edge using arms to keep blocker away, flashes good bend, speed to power flashes 6. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma - Round 2 explosive, overpowered in run game, knocked on his *** too much, gets the edge w/ burst & speed, awesome motor, uses speed backside to make plays in running game, shows inside rip & spin move, uses hands well, advanced set up of pass moves 7. Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forrest - Round 2/3 long arms, lots of hand fighting, slippery when combining inside move w/ arms + hands, flashes explosion, subpar athlete, array of moves, uses hands to shed blocks easily, disruptive, good closing burst 8. Josh Sweat, Florida St - Round 2/3 size/speed specimen, stack & shed ability, speed to power, stiff & moves a little awkwardly, flashes of ridiculous explosion, awesome strength in bull rush, no pass rush moves, sets great edge 9. Sam Hubbard, Ohio St - Round 2/3 not explosive, lacks speed and strength to beat 1 on 1 blocks, all sacks come on inside stunts unblocked, no disruption, solid vs run, sporadically wins w/ inside swim, Michigan + Penn St is better: good hands, speed to power, sufficient speed to get edge, great vs run 10. Kemoko Turay, Rutgers - Round 3 twitchy, active but needs to develop more counters - if speed is picked up then can get swallowed, bendy, really good motor 11. Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, Toledo - Round 3 great explosion off ball, very raw - tries speed to power or pure speed rush, ability to stack and shed vs run, sets an awesome edge vs run, reads screens consistently and breaks it up, very physical + good motor 12. Hercules Mata'afa, Washington St - Round 3 played inside, relentless, super explosive off ball, ridiculous motor, inconsistent, constantly generating pressure from inside, played DT need to project him to edge, constant disruption, tough & violent, 13. Jeff Holland, Auburn - Round 3 twitchy & explosive, inside rip move, bendy?, needs to develop inside counter, pure speed rusher 14. Justin Lawler, SMU - Round 3 great size, not twitchy but solid burst for size, long arms, can generate good speed to power, long arm move and hand usage, generates great power when he creates leverage, can get eaten up by good Ots who can anchor, flashes a little bend while setting up outside rush w/ inside hands, extends arms to stack and shed in run game 15. Uchenna Nwosu, USC - Round 3/4 beats blockers w/ speed to outisde or quickness inside, lacks pass rushing moves, active & twitchy, good hands, explosive, motor +, knocks down a lot of passes 16. Shaquem Griffin, UCF - Round 4 bouncy - plays on toes, speed ++, bend around edge, hand prevents him from disrupting QB at times in rush, motor ++, twitchy + explosive off edge, always around ball, hand can affect ability to shed, nice spin move 17. Dorance Armstrong, Kansas - Round 4 twitched up, needs to add strength, explosion?, shows ability to convert speed to power, balance issues - on *** too much, run game issues cant stack & shed, good on backside of run plays, FAST, flashes spin or inside swim/hand usage, shows bend 18. Chad Thomas, Miami - Day 3 good size/speed combo, very disruptive when moved inside w/ quickness, good hand fighting, sufficient speed to get edge, good from backside on runs, not really a pass rusher yet 19. Breeland Speaks, Ole Miss - Day 3 LB 1. Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech - Top 20 sideline to sideline range, always moving forward, great closing burst, good coverage, awesome size/speed, tackles from side sometimes, never pushed back by OL and stacks + sheds 2. Roquan Smith, Georgia - Top 20 sideline to sideline chase down speed, explosive, good coverage, can get stuck on blocks and tries to slither around, great awareness & sees plays early, needs to play weakside w/o clutter, always around the ball, good blitzer 3. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St - Top 20 great lateral movement, strength to standup blockers, needs to attack LOS faster, great in coverage, good size, perfect tackle form, always facing LOS, great instincts 4. Rashaan Evans, Alabama - Round 1/2 stands up blockers w/ force, great closing burst, violent, good blitzer, slow reaction: will wait to long to move towards play sometimes 5. Jack Cichy, Wisconsin - Round 2 works well locating ball in clutter and finding quick lane to RB, good job getting off blocks w/o moving backwards, not hitter but high success rate, below average athlete, average closing burst although solid in short spaces, no sideline to sideline range, powerful pop to standup blockers, good blitzer, unreal production + always around ball 6. Malik Jefferson, Texas - Round 2 takes on blockers well, good size/speed, slow reactor/hesitancy, fills gap w/ power, stiff/flat footed, strong, works well down LOS, doesn’t show great range despite physical skillet, flashes amazing closing burst north/south, works well in clutter, motor/playing personality issues 7. Genard Avery, Memphis - Round 3 physical in the box, explosive, sideline to sideline range, closing burst, very good blitzer, can get stuck on blocks, will miss some arm tackles, motor +, constantly around ball 8. Darius Leonard, South Carolina St - Round 3 explosive, sideline to sideline range, speed + fluidity, really good instincts, coverage +, not great tackler, redirected by blocks too easily, good blitzer, all over the field, not powerful hitter - hits and holds 9. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma - Round 3 10. Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, Toledo - Round 3/4 11. Uchenna Nwosu, USC - Round 3/4 12. Shaun Dion Hamilton, Alabama - Round 3/4 moves very well, powerful pop to standup blockers, good closing burst in coverage + on blitz, shows good range, explosive downhill 13. Micah Kiser, Virginia - Round 3/4 absorbs block and fights way through to ball, slow closing burst, easily run by in coverage, reads routes well in zone, powerful, good blitzer, rarely bites on misdirection 14. Skai Moore, South Carolina - Round 4 twitchy, kind of herky jerky movements - needs to explode downhill faster (but maybe limited to clutter plays), struggles in clutter, easily covers space in coverage, coverage ++ - lots of INTs and lined up at safety for multiple plays, moves well laterally 15. Josey Jewell, Iowa - Round 4/5 speed deficient, gets off blocks, straight line explosion ok but lateral speed missing, excellent at avoiding blockers, good in the box LB, constantly around ball 16. Shaquem Griffin, UCF - Round 4/5 17. Matthew Thomas, Florida St - Round 5 EXPLOSIVE, poor gap discipline - will abandon gap and let RB run by him, out of control, really good bend as pass rusher, pretty good handling blockers in box, has some pop, loses track of ball 18. Jerome Baker, Ohio St - Round 5 long and skinny, fluid mover, flashes disruptive ability but disappears too much 19. Fred Warner, BYU - Round 5 very athletic/fluid mover, takes on blocks well, struggled to disengage vs Wisconsin, not around the ball as much as you want, can take poor angles, coverage +, played LB/S/Nickel hybrid role 20. Oren Burks, Vanderbilt - Round 5 great movement skills and effortlessly flows towards ball, gets pancaked now and then, explosive downhill, struggles getting through/around blocks, sideline to sideline range, former safety very good in man to man, gets stuck on blocks, takes too long to read play and late as result 21. Frank Ginda, San Jose St - Day 3/UDFA average athlete, keeps head up when dealing w/ blockers, doesn’t attack ball, can get swallowed by OL, good awareness of depth in zone 22. Nick DeLuca, North Dakota St - Day 3/UDFA moves well, slow reactor - needs to attack downhill faster, bad angles causes him to miss tackles, struggles in open space, lets the ballcarrier come to him instead of attacking CB 1. Denzel Ward, Ohio St - Top 20 awesome speed, elite mirroring and doesn’t allow any separation, elite feet & hips, physical in run game, doesnt always turn head around and as a result can get grabby, gets beat at catch point b/c of size + not getting head around super quick, plays ball well on breaking routes 2. Jaire Alexander, Louisville - Top 20 KR/PR, very fluid hips, twitchy mover, plays ball well in air, excellent timing to break up pass, versatile, good route recognition to switch patterns, awesome ball skills, can get a little lazy and let WR get too much separation - maybe trying to bait?, amazing ball skills, feisty attitude 3. Mike Hughes, UCF - Round 1 physical tackler, physical throughout route, gets hands on WR then has ability to recover and stay in hip pocket, allows little separation, good hips & feet to mirror, gets head turned around and plays ball, solid vs run, incredibly fluid, closing burst on ball 4. Isaiah Oliver, Colorado - Round 2 big and long, physical w/ WR, tight hips in breaking routes, stays in WRs hips on deep routes and turns head around to play ball, good closing burst 5. Josh Jackson, Iowa - Round 2 odd spin when following WR off break, easily blocked in run game, not great hips & feet - will give up separation if he cant get his hands on WR, good closing burst, elite ball skills - plays the ball like a WR, great size, terrible tackler 6. Holton Hill, Texas - Round 2 awesome in run game, physical tackler, great closing burst, works his way around picks, great size, physical throughout route - maybe a little to much, can struggle out of breaks (stiffness?), lots of off man + zone, hip tightness issues - want him playing w/ WR in front of him 7. Carlton Davis, Auburn - Round 2 good in run game, super physical w/ WRs & in run game, good press, struggles if he misses the punch w/ quick separation, trouble w/ ball in air 8. Donte Jackson, LSU - Round 2/3 ungodly speed and quickness, fluid hips, rarely gives us separation in trail, small stature & weakness will cause him to get bullied off ball & at catch point, great ball tracking, surprisingly physical, rare mirror ability 9. Nick Nelson, Wisconsin - Round 3 too handsy, good feet but little tight out of back pedal, good job finding the ball, allows little separation, can get beaten deep, lacks great makeup speed 10. Isaac Yiadom, Boston College - Round 3 really good/physical tackler, good awareness in zones of transitions, strong, little separation, tall and long, versatile: zone or press man, not incredibly fluid w/ change of direction, if misses punch at line can get beaten quickly 11. Anthony Averett, Alabama - Day 3 turns head around, gets turned around in coverage and loses technique, gets bodied, handsy, quick, physical, stiff - struggles w/ change of direction and grabs 12. Quenton Meeks, Stanford - Day 3 physical at line, not very fluid out of breaks, questionable speed, gives up a lot of separation out of breaks bc of hips, great size 13. Duke Dawson, Florida - Day 3 beat off line, not fluid, grabby, gives up separation 14. Tavarus McFadden, Florida St - Day 3 very stiff, inconsistent tackler, great size, great blitzer, good closing burst 15. Darius Phillips, Western Michigan - Day 3 good ball skills, awesome job breaking up slants, fluid - doesn’t give up much separation, bit badly on flat and gave up assignment vs Buffalo, can get bodied 16. DJ Reed, Kansas St - Day 3 can get beaten deep, needs to turn head around, physical throughout route, average tackler, will grab at stem S 1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama - Top 10 violent & willing to take on blocks on screens and run game, amazing instincts and explodes towards ball w/o hesitation, mostly plays in slot (PRESS: misses initial punch), excellent mirroring ability when faceguarding 2. Derwin James, Florida St - Top 20 always around the ball, comes downhill in a hurry, takes on blockers to make tackle, awesome blitzer, plays a lot of LB, instincts are off + bad angles, looks good in man, covers a ton of ground, good ball skills 3. DeShon Elliot, Texas - Round 1 versatile - plays both shallow zone near LOS + 2 deep + single high, stands up FB in run game, good range & reads QBs eyes, sure tackler, ability to man up on slot, can dislodge ball w/ hit over middle 4. Jesse Bates, Wake Forrest - Round 2 elite closing burst, tackles too low, ball skills +, tiny size - shows up w/ tackling, burst allows him to recover and make plays on ball, consistently allows runner to get YAC, appealing recklessness even though size prevents great results 5. Justin Reid, Stanford - Round 3 plays a lot in slot, good blitzer, sure tackler, played all over the field - really versatile, will struggle vs WRs in slot, grabs WR at stem 6. Ronnie Harrison, Alabama - Round 3 gets downhill fast, big hitter, very bad in man, breaks on ball well, tough violent attitude, needs to wrap up better 7. Armani Watts, Texas A&M - Round 4 misses tons of tackles, reads QBs eyes, twitchy downhill mover, reads QBs eyes very well and excellent at breaking on route, smooth & fluid in coverage, great ball skills, bites on route fakes/double moves, small frame, at times look timid in tackling unless he gets a free shot 8. Marcus Allen, Penn St - Round 4 plays in box or two deep or single high, solid tackler, instincts seems a little off, decent closing speed, solid in man but can get grabby, not great range as single high 9. Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech - Round 4 ball skills to knock ball away in man on inside breaking routes - great ball skills, can get caught flat-footed in run game, slow to diagnose play, trouble tracking ball 10. Jordan Whitehead, Pittsburgh - Round 4/5 explosive downhill mover, route recognition lacking as deep safety, big hitter, gets lost in coverage and bites on double moves 11. Kyzir White, West Virginia - Round 4/5 slow hips in man vs slot WRs, plays near LOS a lot, decent speed for size but not twitchy, solid tackler who can use size to make big hits 12. Godwin Igwebuike, Northwestern - Day 3 slow reactor makes him look slow on film, bad angles TOP 50 1. Saquan Barkley 2. Quenton Nelson 3. Bradley Chubb 4. Josh Rosen 5. Minkah Fitzpatrick 6. Denzel Ward 7. Sam Darnold 8. Jaire Alexander 9. Tremaine Edmunds 10. Roquan Smith 11. Leighton Vander Esch 12. Isaiah Wynn 13. Derrius Guice 14. Derwin James 15. Harold Landry 16. Maurice Hurst 17. Taven Bryan 18. Vita Vea 19. Mike Hughes 20. Will Hernandez 21. Baker Mayfield 22. Ronald Jones 23. DeShon Elliot 24. Marcus Davenport 25. DaRon Payne 26. Calvin Ridley 27. Rashaan Evans 28. Austin Corbett 29. Arden Key 30. Dallas Goedert 31. Connor Williams 32. Billy Price 33. John Kelly 34. Isaiah Oliver 35. Josh Jackson 36. Holton Hill 37. Harrison Phillips 38. Lorenzo Carter 39. Tyrell Crosby 40. Mike McGlinchey 41. James Daniels 42. DJ Moore 43. Courtland Sutton 44. Braden Smith 45. Anthony Miller 46. Josh Allen 47. Lamar Jackson 48. Jack Cichy 49. Jesse Bates 50. RJ McIntosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Chwf3rd25 said: RB 1. SaQuan Barkley, Penn St - Top 5 2. Derrius Guice, LSU - Top 20 3. Ronald Jones, USC - Round 1 4. John Kelly, Tennessee - Round 2 5. Mark Walton, Miami - Round 2/3 TOP 50 1. Saquan Barkley 2. Quenton Nelson ....... 33. John Kelly I gave you a like just off where you ranked John Kelly. He's gonna be a big time steal for someone in this year's draft. He's the 3rd or 4th best RB in this class IMO. I have Saquon Barkley and Rashaad Penny rated ahead of him with Ronald Jones II graded exactly the same. NFL teams will regret it if they let him fall to Day 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 - Maurice Hurst over Da'Ron Payne is pretty laughable. - Harold Landry has one move and brings absolutely nothing to the table on first and second downs but he is #2 Edge prospect. - No Tyquan Lewis? - And you are 100 wrong calling Duke Ejiofor a "subpar athlete", just because he isn't a freak doesn't mean he is a subpar athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chwf3rd25 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: - Maurice Hurst over Da'Ron Payne is pretty laughable. - Harold Landry has one move and brings absolutely nothing to the table on first and second downs but he is #2 Edge prospect. 1. Why is Hurst > Payne laughable? Payne had Top 5 overall caliber tape in 2 playoff games but otherwise didn't offer consistent pass rush although he's was great vs the run the entire year. Whereas I don't think there was a more consistently disruptive DL in this class than Hurst all year on film. The production bears this out as well if you look at their respective market shares: Hurst: 96 (solo tackle share)/ 44 (sack share)/ 83 (tackle for loss share) Payne: 61 (solo tackle share)/ 16 (sack share)/ 11 (tackle for loss share) For context, no multiple pro bowl DT has ever had Payne's production share scores while Hurst passes the threshold for both multiple pro bowls and all pro. 2. Landry needs to develop a counter but he does not have one move: he can win with speed to power, pure speed rush around the edge, and he has shown a nice long arm move as well. Furthermore how many Edge rushers have an advanced array of moves coming out of college? I would argue that it's very few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 18 hours ago, Chwf3rd25 said: 1. Why is Hurst > Payne laughable? Payne had Top 5 overall caliber tape in 2 playoff games but otherwise didn't offer consistent pass rush although he's was great vs the run the entire year. Whereas I don't think there was a more consistently disruptive DL in this class than Hurst all year on film. The production bears this out as well if you look at their respective market shares: Hurst: 96 (solo tackle share)/ 44 (sack share)/ 83 (tackle for loss share) Payne: 61 (solo tackle share)/ 16 (sack share)/ 11 (tackle for loss share) For context, no multiple pro bowl DT has ever had Payne's production share scores while Hurst passes the threshold for both multiple pro bowls and all pro. 2. Landry needs to develop a counter but he does not have one move: he can win with speed to power, pure speed rush around the edge, and he has shown a nice long arm move as well. Furthermore how many Edge rushers have an advanced array of moves coming out of college? I would argue that it's very few. A) get with the times, the stats argument is old and antiquated B) Hurst = 1 gap scheme, Payne = 2 gap scheme. Film and research will tell you of course they won't have similar production C) Hurst's hamstrings and lower body isn't NFL starter caliber IMO let alone Pro Bowl caliber, he is going to get washed like dirty laundry in the run game. As far as Landry? How many rushers came out with an array of moves? Joey Bosa, Von Miller and Aldon Smith just name a few. Also when I brought up bringing something to the table on first and second down, that basically means bringing something to run stopping which usually occurs on 1st and 2nd downs (which is his greatest weakness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: - Harold Landry has one move and brings absolutely nothing to the table on first and second downs but he is #2 Edge prospect. Are your draft takes always this bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 17 hours ago, Chwf3rd25 said: Qualifiers 1. If someone isn't listed then I haven't watched them yet 2. I dont factor in character or injury issues as I dont have enough information to properly judge its relevance 3. I try to not take into account positional value, so while I have Isaiah Wynn ranked above Baker Mayfield I would still draft Baker over Wynn. QB 1. Josh Rosen, UCLA - Top 5 2. Sam Darnold, USC - Top 10 3. Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma - Round 1 4. Josh Allen, Wyoming - Round 2 5. Lamar Jackson, Louisville - Round 2 RB 1. SaQuan Barkley, Penn St - Top 5 2. Derrius Guice, LSU - Top 20 3. Ronald Jones, USC - Round 1 4. John Kelly, Tennessee - Round 2 5. Mark Walton, Miami - Round 2/3 6. Kerryon Johnson, Auburn - Round 2/3 7. Sony Michel, Georgia - Round 3 8. Rashaad Penny, San Diego St - Round 3 9. Nick Chubb, Georgia - Round 3 10. Royce Freeman, Oregon - Round 3/4 11. Jordan Wilkins, Ole Miss - Day 3 12. Josh Adams, Notre Dame - Day 3 13. Ito Smith, Southern Miss - Day 3 14. Nyheim Hines, NC State - Day 3 15. Bo Scarbrough, Alabama - Day 3 16. Chase Edmonds, Fordham - Day 3 17. Roc Thomas, Jacksonville St - Day 3 18. Kalen Ballage, Arizona St - Day 3 19. Akrum Wadley, Iowa - Day 3 WR 1. Calvin Ridley, Alabama - Round 1 2. DJ Moore, Maryland - Round 2 3. Courtland Sutton, SMU - Round 2 4. Anthony Miller, Memphis - Round 2 5. Christian Kirk, Texas A&M - Round 2 6. Antonio Callaway, Florida - Round 2/3 7. Cedrick Wilson, Boise St - Round 3/4 8. Michael Gallup, Colorado St - Round 3/4 9. Allen Lazard, Iowa St - Round 3/4 10. Equanimeous St. Brown, Notre Dame - Round 3/4 11. Dante Pettis, Washington - Round 3/4 12. James Washington, Oklahoma St - Round 4 13. DJ Chark, LSU - Round 4 14. Deon Cain, Clemson - Round 4 15. Darren Carrington, Utah - Round 4/5 16. TreQuan Smith, UCF - Round 4/5 17. DaeSean Hamilton, Penn St - Day 3 18. Keke Coutee, Texas Tech - Day 3 19. Auden Tate, Florida St - Day 3 20. Jordan Lasley, UCLA - Day 3 21. J'Mon Moore, Missouri - Day 3 22. Richie James, Middle Tennessee St - Day 3 23. Simmie Cobbs, Indiana - Day 3 24. Marcell Ateman, Oklahoma St - Day 3 25. Jaleel Scott, New Mexico St - Day 3 TE 1. Dallas Goedert, South Dakota St - Round 1/2 2. Hayden Hurst, South Carolina - Round 2 3. Mike Gesicki, Penn St - Round 2/3 4. Jaylen Samuels, NC State - Round 2/3 5. Mark Andrews, Oklahoma - Round 3 6. Tyler Conklin, Central Michigan - Round 4 7. Dalton Schultz, Stanford - Round 4/5 8. Ian Thomas, Indiana - Day 3 9. Christopher Herndon, Miami - Day 3 10. Jordan Akins, UCF - Day 3 11. Tony Fumagali, Wisconsin - Day 3 12. Durham Smythe, Notre Dame - Day 3 OT 1. Connor Williams, Texas - Round 1/2 2. Tyrell Crosby, Oregon - Round 2 3. Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame - Round 2 4. Orlando Brown, Oklahoma - Round 2/3 5. Brandon Parker, North Carolina A&T - Round 2/3 6. Chukwuma Okorafor, Western Michigan - Round 3 7. Jamarco Jones, Ohio St - Round 3 8. Austin Corbett, Nevada - Round 3 9. Martinas Rankin, Mississippi St - Round 3 10. Kolton Miller, UCLA - Round 3 11. Brian O'Neill, Pittsburgh - Round 3 12. Geron Christian, Louisville - Round 4/5 13. Joseph Noteboom, TCU - Round 4/5 14. Will Richardson, North Carolina St - Round 4/5 15. Cole Madison, Washington St - Day 3 OG 1. Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame - Top 5 2. Isaiah Wynn, Georgia - Top 20 3. Will Hernandez, UTEP - Round 1 4. Austin Corbett, Nevada - Round 1/2 5. Braden Smith, Auburn - Round 2 6. Martinas Rankin, Mississippi St - Round 3 7. Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech - Round 3 8. Salesi Uhatafe, Utah - Round 4 9. Colby Gossett, Appalachian St - Round 4/5 10. Alex Cappa, Humbolt St - Round 4/5 11. Tony Adams, NC State - Day 3 12. Skyler Phillips, Idaho St - Day 3 13. Cole Madison, Washington St - Day 3 OC 1. Billy Price, Ohio St - Round 1/2 2. James Daniels, Iowa - Round 2 3. Frank Ragnow, Arkansas - Round 2/3 4. Coleman Shelton, Washington - Round 5 DL 1. Maurice Hurst, Michigan - Round 1 2. Taven Bryan, Florida - Round 1 3. Vita Vea, Washington - Round 1 4. DaRon Payne, Alabama - Round 1 5. Harrison Phillips, Stanford - Round 2 6. Rasheem Green, USC - Round 2 7. Justin Jones, NC State - Round 2/3 8. RJ McIntosh, Miami - Round 2/3 9. Derrick Nnadi, Florida St - Round 3/4 10. Tim Settle, Virginia Tech - Round 3/4 11. Folorunso Fatukasi, UConn - Day 3 12. Andrew Brown, Virginia - Day 3 13. Poona Ford, Texas - Day 3 14. Trenton Thompson, Georgia - Day 3 15. BJ Hill, NC State - Day 3 16. Breeland Speaks, Ole Miss - Day 3 Edge 1. Bradley Chubb, NC State - Top 5 2. Harold Landry, Boston College - Round 1 3. Marcus Davenport, UTSA - Round 1 4. Arden Key, LSU - Round 1/2 5. Lorenzo Carter, Georgia - Round 2 6. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma - Round 2 7. Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forrest - Round 2/3 8. Josh Sweat, Florida St - Round 2/3 9. Sam Hubbard, Ohio St - Round 2/3 10. Kemoko Turay, Rutgers - Round 3 11. Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, Toledo - Round 3 12. Hercules Mata'afa, Washington St - Round 3 13. Jeff Holland, Auburn - Round 3 14. Justin Lawler, SMU - Round 3 15. Uchenna Nwosu, USC - Round 3/4 16. Shaquem Griffin, UCF - Round 4 17. Dorance Armstrong, Kansas - Round 4 18. Chad Thomas, Miami - Day 3 19. Breeland Speaks, Ole Miss - Day 3 LB 1. Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech - Top 20 2. Roquan Smith, Georgia - Top 20 3. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise St - Top 20 4. Rashaan Evans, Alabama - Round 1/2 5. Jack Cichy, Wisconsin - Round 2 6. Malik Jefferson, Texas - Round 2 7. Genard Avery, Memphis - Round 3 8. Darius Leonard, South Carolina St - Round 3 9. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma - Round 3 10. Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, Toledo - Round 3/4 11. Uchenna Nwosu, USC - Round 3/4 12. Shaun Dion Hamilton, Alabama - Round 3/4 13. Micah Kiser, Virginia - Round 3/4 14. Skai Moore, South Carolina - Round 4 15. Josey Jewell, Iowa - Round 4/5 16. Shaquem Griffin, UCF - Round 4/5 17. Matthew Thomas, Florida St - Round 5 18. Jerome Baker, Ohio St - Round 5 19. Fred Warner, BYU - Round 5 20. Oren Burks, Vanderbilt - Round 5 21. Frank Ginda, San Jose St - Day 3/UDFA 22. Nick DeLuca, North Dakota St - Day 3/UDFA CB 1. Denzel Ward, Ohio St - Top 20 2. Jaire Alexander, Louisville - Top 20 3. Mike Hughes, UCF - Round 1 4. Isaiah Oliver, Colorado - Round 2 5. Josh Jackson, Iowa - Round 2 6. Holton Hill, Texas - Round 2 7. Carlton Davis, Auburn - Round 2 8. Donte Jackson, LSU - Round 2/3 9. Nick Nelson, Wisconsin - Round 3 10. Isaac Yiadom, Boston College - Round 3 11. Anthony Averett, Alabama - Day 3 12. Quenton Meeks, Stanford - Day 3 13. Duke Dawson, Florida - Day 3 14. Tavarus McFadden, Florida St - Day 3 15. Darius Phillips, Western Michigan - Day 3 16. DJ Reed, Kansas St - Day 3 S 1. Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama - Top 10 2. Derwin James, Florida St - Top 20 3. DeShon Elliot, Texas - Round 1 4. Jesse Bates, Wake Forrest - Round 2 5. Justin Reid, Stanford - Round 3 6. Ronnie Harrison, Alabama - Round 3 7. Armani Watts, Texas A&M - Round 4 8. Marcus Allen, Penn St - Round 4 9. Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech - Round 4 10. Jordan Whitehead, Pittsburgh - Round 4/5 11. Kyzir White, West Virginia - Round 4/5 12. Godwin Igwebuike, Northwestern - Day 3 TOP 50 1. Saquan Barkley 2. Quenton Nelson 3. Bradley Chubb 4. Josh Rosen 5. Minkah Fitzpatrick 6. Denzel Ward 7. Sam Darnold 8. Jaire Alexander 9. Tremaine Edmunds 10. Roquan Smith 11. Leighton Vander Esch 12. Isaiah Wynn 13. Derrius Guice 14. Derwin James 15. Harold Landry 16. Maurice Hurst 17. Taven Bryan 18. Vita Vea 19. Mike Hughes 20. Will Hernandez 21. Baker Mayfield 22. Ronald Jones 23. DeShon Elliot 24. Marcus Davenport 25. DaRon Payne 26. Calvin Ridley 27. Rashaan Evans 28. Austin Corbett 29. Arden Key 30. Dallas Goedert 31. Connor Williams 32. Billy Price 33. John Kelly 34. Isaiah Oliver 35. Josh Jackson 36. Holton Hill 37. Harrison Phillips 38. Lorenzo Carter 39. Tyrell Crosby 40. Mike McGlinchey 41. James Daniels 42. DJ Moore 43. Courtland Sutton 44. Braden Smith 45. Anthony Miller 46. Josh Allen 47. Lamar Jackson 48. Jack Cichy 49. Jesse Bates 50. Rasheem Green For me, positional ranking are a waste of time and effort, if they do not include explanations for their rankings. Mayock may not post his explanations for his rankings beside each prospect, but live on TV, he pretty well explains why he likes or dislikes a prospect in his rankings. Either finish the job or do not waste our time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Are your draft takes always this bad? Not even worth responding to, next.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Iamcanadian said: For me, positional ranking are a waste of time and effort, if they do not include explanations for their rankings. Mayock may not post his explanations for his rankings beside each prospect, but live on TV, he pretty well explains why he likes or dislikes a prospect in his rankings. Either finish the job or do not waste our time!!! Really? C'mon man. I hope I'm misunderstanding your post, otherwise this is a really bad post. Sorry that he didn't take the time to post rankings the way you want them to be presented but instead took the time to "only" do a fairly comprehensive positional ranking and a top 50 overall to boot. Want explanation? Ask him. OP provided an excellent post to generate future discussion within the thread by posting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chwf3rd25 Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 59 minutes ago, Iamcanadian said: For me, positional ranking are a waste of time and effort, if they do not include explanations for their rankings. Mayock may not post his explanations for his rankings beside each prospect, but live on TV, he pretty well explains why he likes or dislikes a prospect in his rankings. Either finish the job or do not waste our time!!! Was feeling a little lazy last night and just added my scouting notes for each player. Also, don't quote the entirety of a long post as it wastes our time trying to scroll through it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couchscout Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 very impressive list... Alot of really good takes 20 hours ago, Chwf3rd25 said: 23. DeShon Elliot this would be one of the few I just do not see on tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Not even worth responding to, next.... Feel free to defend yourself, you won't. Is he probably a sub-package player as a rookie? Probably, but that doesn't mean he's a one-trick pony or hasn't shown the ability to help in other facets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlNFL19 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/25/2018 at 2:15 AM, VanS said: I gave you a like just off where you ranked John Kelly. He's gonna be a big time steal for someone in this year's draft. He's the 3rd or 4th best RB in this class IMO. I have Saquon Barkley and Rashaad Penny rated ahead of him with Ronald Jones II graded exactly the same. NFL teams will regret it if they let him fall to Day 3. Kelly has incredible balance and electric feet, but I prefer Mark Walton from Miami. He's got better burst and as a result I think he's the draft's No. 2 back. Kelly's somewhere in my top 15, I forget where exactly. Great RB class this year, would've been even more loaded if Damien Harris declared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 22 hours ago, CWood21 said: Feel free to defend yourself, you won't. Is he probably a sub-package player as a rookie? Probably, but that doesn't mean he's a one-trick pony or hasn't shown the ability to help in other facets. When has he shown flashes of being a good run defender? He gets demolished in the run game. I did see him stunt inside and come clean on a few plays and get TFL's, but he's not going to hold up as an edge setter. He's purely a nuanced speed rusher. Watch FSU vs. Boston College from last year. Roderick Johnson made Harold Landry hold his pocket after that game. And Roderick Johnson struggles with speed typically. Landry looked lost and incapable in that game at full health. He is a good athlete with great bend, but he doesn't strike me as someone that's going to do anything in terms of run defense in his career. And it's not really a want-to thing. He does gets after it out there, but he has poor hand usage and is just too frail to deal with guys that much bigger and stronger than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, AlNFL19 said: Kelly has incredible balance and electric feet, but I prefer Mark Walton from Miami. He's got better burst and as a result I think he's the draft's No. 2 back. Kelly's somewhere in my top 15, I forget where exactly. Great RB class this year, would've been even more loaded if Damien Harris declared. Yeah Mark Walton is a stud. My jaw hit the floor by how bad his NFL combine was though. He's so explosive when you watch him on tape. He's probably not going to be drafted before the 4th round now, but he's going to be a steal for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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