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Just now, EliteTexan80 said:

Don't be shocked if Texas gets on the fast track to get something up for vote.

Keep in mind that Texas needs to repeal the previous law first. Yes, that can be done concurrently with a new law, but there's added pressure from constituents to block changing existing laws. Again  *dancing around Webby's rules a bit*  there are ... let's say ... "organizations" in Texas that tend to take a dim view of gambling and are somewhat politically connected. They just need to be the sand in the gears by preventing the repeal of the existing laws to gum up opening a sports book.

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Just now, EliteTexan80 said:

Do you like affordable housing, cheap fuel, crawfish, Tex Mex, Tex Mex WITH crawfish and BBQ? If so, stop on by.

I like the food options, but I also tend to like some zoning laws. The fuel piece doesn't really bother me (I planned for the fact oil is going to spike again).

Also, I tend to prefer my house not to flood.

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13 minutes ago, Woz said:

Keep in mind that Texas needs to repeal the previous law first. Yes, that can be done concurrently with a new law, but there's added pressure from constituents to block changing existing laws. Again  *dancing around Webby's rules a bit*  there are ... let's say ... "organizations" in Texas that tend to take a dim view of gambling and are somewhat politically connected. They just need to be the sand in the gears by preventing the repeal of the existing laws to gum up opening a sports book.

I get that - I'm mostly thinking of McNair, who is very connected to those groups, in a very public way. While his view might be dim, the money is too much for him to ignore. Considering you'd also have people like Jerruh, Mark Cuban and Tillmam Fertitta due to make a ton for their respective franchises, I could surmise they'd find the capital necessary to "brighten" ones views. 

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12 minutes ago, Woz said:

I like the food options, but I also tend to like some zoning laws. The fuel piece doesn't really bother me (I planned for the fact oil is going to spike again).

Also, I tend to prefer my house not to flood.

If it's illegal to have a strip club next to a church, then send me to jail.

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16 minutes ago, EliteTexan80 said:

If it's illegal to have a strip club next to a church, then send me to jail.

Unless and until I create the Holy Sepulcher of Woz, I'll leave the "strip club next to church" conundrum for others to deal with.

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On 5/15/2018 at 3:02 PM, Woz said:

So, potentially

  • By 2018 season start (let's assume that no one opens a book before September, a possible unsafe assumption)

As I was driving into work today, I heard a piece which I think had the head of gaming in New Jersey (I think that's who he was) say that Jersey could have the sports books open in the state by June, July at the latest.

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2 hours ago, Woz said:

As I was driving into work today, I heard a piece which I think had the head of gaming in New Jersey (I think that's who he was) say that Jersey could have the sports books open in the state by June, July at the latest.

I read this and immediately think of the exchange between Mayor Quimby and Fat Tony in this clip from The Simpsons (2:11 mark).

 

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Well it’s begun...

With states like New Jersey who are set to go soon pretty clear this will be in place on many fronts in time for the NFL season.  

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45 minutes ago, Broncofan said:

With states like New Jersey who are set to go soon pretty clear this will be in place on many fronts in time for the NFL season.  

Which state will go after the incredibly lucrative market of taking message board bets ?

No more silly sig bets, somebody has to step up and take all the FF action.

MILLIONS are at stake here...and webby gets a slice of the juice....:D

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1 hour ago, Shanedorf said:

Which state will go after the incredibly lucrative market of taking message board bets ?

No more silly sig bets, somebody has to step up and take all the FF action.

MILLIONS are at stake here...and webby gets a slice of the juice....:D

Clearly Webby would need an integrity fee to ensure the bets are above board, like all the leagues need now that gambling which already happened off-site but is now just happening for all to see ¬¬.   

 

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20 hours ago, Broncofan said:

With states like New Jersey who are set to go soon pretty clear this will be in place on many fronts in time for the NFL season.  

https://www.legalsportsreport.com/sportsbetting-bill-tracker/

Delaware has turned it on. New Jersey is likely to be online within a month.

Other states:

  • Mississippi has regulations in the works (May 17) and is estimating that they would have legal sports betting by the "end of the summer." (May 15)
  • Pennsylvania has announced that it is accepting approval requests for sports betting at its casinos (May 31), so it's possible that they'll come online this year, perhaps before the NFL season starts.
  • New York has a limited law on the books (allowing sports betting in just four upstate commercial casinos, passed back in 2013), but it's thought that they want to have a broader law so that it won't negatively impact Native American casinos, the state's horse racing tracks, off track betting facilities, and racinos. However, NY regulators are moving ahead with regulations with a draft "for ... review in the near term." (May 21)
  • West Virginia passed its legalization bill in March but it passed without Governor Jim Justice's signature (he didn't sign it and he didn't veto it, so it became law). Originally, that meant that West Virginia was just waiting for the outcome of the Supreme Court case. However, Justice announced that the state of West Virginia will not pay any integrity fees to the league, but that the gaming interests (read: casinos) would pay the fee. That would require amending the law, so West Virginia might be delayed from allowing sports betting.

There are also ripple effects as well:

  • Connecticut had a bill that was fast tracked but it died due to conflicts with Native American casinos (May 9, legislative session ended). However, Governor Dan Malloy mentioned the possibility of a special legislative session (May 14) in hopes of figuring out a solution.
  • Both Massachusetts and Maryland have passed "study the issue" bills, but given the number of states around them that may be going ahead with it, I wonder if they'll be inclined/forced to move faster.
  • Hawaii has also passed a "study the issue" bill, but they might not face as much pressure as the other two. It would also be interesting how a Hawaii bookie/bettors would deal with the time zone issue. Would they really open up at 5 AM? I wonder if they'd just stick with legalizing things like DFS.

 

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Speaking of legalized gambling....here's a great article on EDJ Sports analytics and how they are using data to help teams make better decisions

Coaches face "gambles" all game long and how they decide those gambles influences the outcome of games. And bets.

NFL bettors will begin paying attention to this stuff and soon enough and we'll surely see bets offered on 4th down conversions as well

How the Eagles Followed the Numbers to the Super Bowl

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/sports/football/eagles-analytics-super-bowl-lii.html

By keeping Philadelphia’s offense on the field in a situation almost always played safe in the risk-averse N.F.L., Coach Doug Pederson did not buck conventional wisdom so much as roll his eyes at it.... Analyzing every team’s risk-management style, EdjSports determined that Philadelphia optimizes decisions — on fourth down, especially — better than its peers by a substantial margin."

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