2018 Draft Thread v.2 - DONE AND IN THE BOOKS

[Rich7sena]

24 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said:

I love Ward at 10.  The closer we get to draft day the more I think Ward needs to be the pick.  As for the rest of your mock I know we do need a RT but I dont know much about Crosby.  It all depends who else is on the board.  If any of the DT's slip (Hurst, Bryan, Via, Payne, Phillips) do we take an OT over them?

I wouldn't take Crosby over Vea, Hurst, or Bryan. I'll probably end up having Crosby and Payne rated similarly but I consider offensive tackle a more pressing need. Phillips I wouldn't take before round 5 or 6.

To me, Crosby and Jamarco Jones are the last safe starting tackles in this class before things begin to drop off quite a bit. Athletically, he's unspectacular but he plays with very high awareness. He never gets beat cleanly and he's very good at working up to the second level. He didn't give up one sack last season and surrendered very few pressures (7 total according to PFF). He actually reminds me a bit of Donald Penn.

[RaidersAreOne]

27 minutes ago, Mr Bob Dobalina said:

Micheal “Longball” Dixon from Texas. Dude has a lechler type leg. With great accuracy as well. Hope we can grab him with one of our 5th round picks.

I have read there are a few really good punting prospects this year. That could partly be why King was sent packing.

[Rich7sena]

16 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

I have read there are a few really good punting prospects this year. That could partly be why King was sent packing.

Use all 3 6th rounders on a punter. Fight to the death.

[Frankie2Gunz]

6 hours ago, Rich7sena said:

I wouldn't take Crosby over Vea, Hurst, or Bryan. I'll probably end up having Crosby and Payne rated similarly but I consider offensive tackle a more pressing need. Phillips I wouldn't take before round 5 or 6.

To me, Crosby and Jamarco Jones are the last safe starting tackles in this class before things begin to drop off quite a bit. Athletically, he's unspectacular but he plays with very high awareness. He never gets beat cleanly and he's very good at working up to the second level. He didn't give up one sack last season and surrendered very few pressures (7 total according to PFF). He actually reminds me a bit of Donald Penn.

Thanks for the insight.  Crosby sounds like he could be a solid RT for us for years.  Do you think he has the skillset to move over to the left side?

If Phillips slips to the 5th or 6th he would be a steal.  I have read comps to Kyle Williams.  I agree that Phillips might not be the interior pass rusher this team is lacking but he looks like he could be a solid player who isn't sexy but is a lunch pail type DT.  

[reddevil]

No way Phillips lasts that long. I'd be very tempted to get him in the 2nd and certainly in the 3rd if we don't go Vea round 1. I think the comparison with Williams has been well documented and is apt. No frills 10 year starter.

To borrow Rich7's first 2 rounds::

Ward, Crosby, Phillips would be close to my ideal first 3 rounds. Go skill positions for a couple of rounds, get a fast LB and then depth (and of course a punter).

[G]

Honestly I've got no clue but currently this is how I see it...

Guys I think go top 10 or have top 10 ranking/ability (13 total so Buff trade is good. I'm not a fan of LB's high, but see the value)

1 QB  BAKER MAYFIELD - OKLAHOMA

2 QB  JOSH ROSEN - UCLA

7 QB  SAM DARNOLD - USC

26 QB  JOSH ALLEN - WYOMING

4 RB  SAQUON BARKLEY - PENN STATE

3 EDGE  BRADLEY CHUBB - NORTH CAROLINA STATE

8 S  MINKAH FITZPATRICK - ALABAMA

10 S  DERWIN JAMES - FLORIDA STATE

12 CB  DENZEL WARD - OHIO STATE

6 G  QUENTON NELSON - NOTRE DAME

9 LB  TREMAINE EDMUNDS - VIRGINIA TECH

5 LB  ROQUAN SMITH - GEORGIA

11 DL  VITA VEA - WASHINGTON

 

Next branch...(22 so far so no trade down below Buffalo's #22)

13 EDGE  HAROLD LANDRY - BOSTON COLLEGE

14 QB  LAMAR JACKSON - LOUISVILLE (talented but think he could fall. Chargers/Saints makes sense)

15 OT  MIKE MCGLINCHEY - NOTRE DAME

22 OT  CONNOR WILLIAMS - TEXAS

17 CB  JAIRE ALEXANDER - LOUISVILLE

18 DL  MAURICE HURST - MICHIGAN

19 RB  DERRIUS GUICE - LSU

39 WR  CALVIN RIDLEY - ALABAMA

33 LB  RASHAAN EVANS - ALABAMA

 

2nd round all good but some will be 1sts...

16 WR  COURTLAND SUTTON - SMU

23 WR  D.J. MOORE - MARYLAND

24 S  RONNIE HARRISON - ALABAMA

25 EDGE  MARCUS DAVENPORT - UTSA

32 EDGE  JOSH SWEAT - FLORIDA STATE

21 DL  TAVEN BRYAN - FLORIDA

28 DL  DA'RON PAYNE - ALABAMA

43 EDGE  SAM HUBBARD - OHIO STATE

44 DL  HARRISON PHILLIPS - STANFORD

20 G  ISAIAH WYNN - GEORGIA

27 G  WILL HERNANDEZ - UTEP

41 OT  TYRELL CROSBY - OREGON

81 OT  JAMARCO JONES - OHIO STATE

29 C  JAMES DANIELS - IOWA

38 OT  KOLTON MILLER - UCLA

34 CB  ISAIAH OLIVER - COLORADO

75 CB  MIKE HUGHES - UCF

31 CB  JOSH JACKSON - IOWA

47 CB  CARLTON DAVIS - AUBURN

51 RB  SONY MICHEL - GEORGIA

50 LB  MALIK JEFFERSON - TEXAS

35 LB  LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH - BOISE STATE

45 QB  MASON RUDOLPH - OKLAHOMA STATE

(count at 45 so not looking good to trade down in 2nd round unless it's for a 2019 1st...)

 

 

(72 and counting...I don't take TE's til 3rd as a rule of thumb and many WR's slip there so I just wait...)

69 CB  QUENTON MEEKS - STANFORD

30 S  JUSTIN REID - STANFORD

54 S  MARCUS ALLEN - PENN STATE

48 WR  CHRISTIAN KIRK - TEXAS A&M

49 WR  JAMES WASHINGTON - OKLAHOMA STATE

57 WR  DEON CAIN - CLEMSON

70 WR  D.J. CHARK - LSU

73 WR  AUDEN TATE - FLORIDA STATE

74 WR  DEONTAY BURNETT - USC

40 TE  DALLAS GOEDERT - SOUTH DAKOTA STATE

37 TE  MIKE GESICKI - PENN STATE

58 TE  MARK ANDREWS - OKLAHOMA

76 TE  HAYDEN HURST - SOUTH CAROLINA

62 OT  ORLANDO BROWN - OKLAHOMA

71 OT  MARTINAS RANKIN - MISSISSIPPI STATE

42 G  BILLY PRICE - OHIO STATE

72 C  MASON COLE - MICHIGAN

66 OT  BRIAN O'NEILL - PITTSBURGH

88 OT  CHUKWUMA OKORAFOR - WESTERN MICHIGAN

80 C  FRANK RAGNOW - ARKANSAS

68 RB  NICK CHUBB - GEORGIA

53 RB  RASHAAD PENNY - SAN DIEGO STATE

36 RB  RONALD JONES II - USC

56 RB  ROYCE FREEMAN - OREGON

59 EDGE  ARDEN KEY - LSU

78 EDGE  TYQUAN LEWIS - OHIO STATE

52 EDGE  HERCULES MATA'AFA - WASHINGTON STATE

55 EDGE  OGBONNIA OKORONKWO - OKLAHOMA

 

 

(4th round fliers...)

 

67 G  BRADEN SMITH - AUBURN

60 OT  DESMOND HARRISON - WEST GEORGIA

61 DL  DERRICK NNADI - FLORIDA STATE

64 RB  KERRYON JOHNSON - AUBURN

79 DL  DA'SHAWN HAND - ALABAMA

 

82 DL  TRENTON THOMPSON - GEORGIA

84 S  DESHON ELLIOTT - TEXAS

85 CB  DONTE JACKSON - LSU

86 S  ARMANI WATTS - TEXAS A&M

87 CB  ANTHONY AVERETT - ALABAMA

89 DL  RASHEEM GREEN - USC

90 WR  ANTHONY MILLER - MEMPHIS

91 DL  KENDRICK NORTON - MIAMI

92 LB  JEROME BAKER - OHIO STATE

94 WR  DANTE PETTIS - WASHINGTON

97 RB  MARK WALTON - MIAMI

98 DL  TIM SETTLE - VIRGINIA TECH

100 DL  R.J. MCINTOSH - MIAMI

103 S  TERRELL EDMUNDS - VIRGINIA TECH

 

There are many more and I don't watch college ball. This list is from just reading this site and a few others. So I'm JAG with a WAG.   =)

 

[Rich7sena]

1 hour ago, reddevil said:

No way Phillips lasts that long. I'd be very tempted to get him in the 2nd and certainly in the 3rd if we don't go Vea round 1. I think the comparison with Williams has been well documented and is apt. No frills 10 year starter.

To borrow Rich7's first 2 rounds::

Ward, Crosby, Phillips would be close to my ideal first 3 rounds. Go skill positions for a couple of rounds, get a fast LB and then depth (and of course a punter).

I struggle to see the appeal with Phillips. He has no pass rush moves and little push in the run game. Double teams easily move him off the ball. To me, he's a rotational 3-tech on run downs.

[NJ Raider]

My Mock:

1.) Vea- have been back and forth on this guy throughout the process, but I’m all in at this point. Our new dL coach will turn him into a better pass rusher and he will make the guys around him better.

2.) Jamarco Jones- I think he could our lt of the future.

3.) Austin Pettis WR/KR Washington- What we look for in a WR. Runs precise routes, makes adjustments, has good hands, and will get up and fight for a ball. Offers return value as well.

4.) John Kelly RB Tennessee- Could mean the end for at least one of the smurfs. Runs tough, quick, and great receiver out of the backfield. 

5.) Oren Burks LB Vandy- Good coverage LB that can play the run as well

5.) Holton Hill CB Texas- Some off the field stuff but good underrated corner. Spot in the draft where Reggie will roll the dice.

6.) Michael Dickson P Texas- Kings replacement. Dude has a boot.

Rest of the draft: BPA. Maybe an edge guy, Tight end, dB, another ol.

[NJ Raider]

Meant to say Dante Pettis.

[SilverNBlackFan]

On 3/29/2018 at 2:32 PM, MrOaktown_56 said:

Who are your favorite WR's in this class? 

Hearing Gruden talk about how we will be implementing alot of bubble screens and RPOs, I think Christian Kirk would be perfect for this offense. I think he projects as a star in the slot and also a beast of a return man. I would not take him at #10, though. I think he's a lock to go in the twenties so we won't have another shot at him.

I also like Sutton and Anthony Miller. The troubled kid from Florida is also intriguing. Could be a tyreke hill like gem for some team willing to roll the dice on him.

[NightTrainLane]

37 minutes ago, SilverNBlackFan said:

Hearing Gruden talk about how we will be implementing alot of bubble screens and RPOs, I think Christian Kirk would be perfect for this offense. I think he projects as a star in the slot and also a beast of a return man. I would not take him at #10, though. I think he's a lock to go in the twenties so we won't have another shot at him.

I also like Sutton and Anthony Miller. The troubled kid from Florida is also intriguing. Could be a tyreke hill like gem for some team willing to roll the dice on him.

I'm pretty sure Gruden said he would have them in the system. I don't think he said "a lot".

But all the guys you mentioned do have value and are or were the highly rated.

[SilverNBlackFan]

22 minutes ago, NightTrainLane said:

I'm pretty sure Gruden said he would have them in the system. I don't think he said "a lot".

But all the guys you mentioned do have value and are or were the highly rated.

Gruden has been blabbing on about bubble screens for years in the booth. Haha I would be dissapointed if we didn't run it alot 

Who are your favorite receiver prospects this year ?

[SilverNBlackFan]

Was watching Path to the Draft the other day and Daniel Jeremiah mentioned Taven Bryan as a potential surprise pick for us at #10.

While it wouldn't be my ideal pick, I honestly wouldn't mind taking him over Vea. He fits more what we need.

[NightTrainLane]

29 minutes ago, SilverNBlackFan said:

Who are your favorite receiver prospects this year ?

I like all the guys you mentioned plus Cain for his routes, speed and polish, Coutee and Berrios as secondary targets in the slot that have some holes in their game but offer value late in the draft, Ateman as a redzone target with good hands and route proficient skill set (Westcoast fit). Cibasu interest me as a 7thrd or an UDFA that we may be able to use as an HB or receiving TE who can block and a split out is exotic formations.

[NickButera]

I think I'm more excited about this years draft than ever. McKenzie had a knack for choosing "who?" guys. He'd surprise you ever year with players that he valued more than the rest of the league it seemed. With gruden having major input, I'm guessing we're going to draft more prospects with more accomplishments than before, more common sense picks.