Ozzy Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, RpMc said: At this point, I don’t think anyone acquired in an Easton type swap would net us anyone better than who we currently have on roster. We would have to move a relatively significant piece to find meaningful help. True, but again it is freaking damn odd that we signed Tavarres King to almost the exact same amount of money as we could of signed Xavier Su'a-Filo apparently. No clue why we have that much WR depth when really it is not all that needed. They better be sound in their drafting and belief in these younger guards, because honestly even with Easton the OG position it is not exactly a strong point, and without him is even worse. Pretty sure they are not going to go after Richie Incognito after his tirade that is for sure. Jahri Evans and Alex Boone are out there still, doubt they got after Boone though after letting him go already once. Zane Beadles, Luke Joeckel, Jeff Allen, Donavan Clark and Orlando Franklin are some others. Would be surprised if they do not bring someone in that is for sure at least for a little workout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthCountryEvo Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I say again: does anyone have Berger’s number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_allday2869 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, NorthCountryEvo said: I say again: does anyone have Berger’s number? Apparently, there is no chance he is coming back. I know Mike Hughes looks studly, but it was probably a mistake at this point we didn't take Hernandez, Daniels, or someone else. We took luxury over need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikes_Bolts1228 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, NorthCountryEvo said: I say again: does anyone have Berger’s number? I hear he lost a bunch of weight and muscle mass. Not easy to put that back on correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, AP_allday2869 said: Apparently, there is no chance he is coming back. I know Mike Hughes looks studly, but it was probably a mistake at this point we didn't take Hernandez, Daniels, or someone else. We took luxury over need After last year, Nickle CB and maybe even #2 CB could be more important. Obviously the team had some faith in our offensive line. Again, reminder.... teams don’t win for drafting by need. It’s always the best player available at a position of need. Hernandez didn’t look like a beast tonight. He also isn’t a perfect fit. Now if Ragnow was around at our pick, I would of expected us to take him, maybe even over Hughes. Drafting lineman just because of needed “depth” just so we had one in case of injury is not the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AP_allday2869 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, gopherwrestler said: After last year, Nickle CB and maybe even #2 CB could be more important. Obviously the team had some faith in our offensive line. Again, reminder.... teams don’t win for drafting by need. It’s always the best player available at a position of need. Hernandez didn’t look like a beast tonight. He also isn’t a perfect fit. Now if Ragnow was around at our pick, I would of expected us to take him, maybe even over Hughes. Drafting lineman just because of needed “depth” just so we had one in case of injury is not the way to go. Taking a lineman in the first wouldn't have been because of depth. That was a need going into the draft. More so than a #2/nickle CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, AP_allday2869 said: Taking a lineman in the first wouldn't have been because of depth. That was a need going into the draft. More so than a #2/nickle CB. Taking a guard in the 1st round would be to sit behind Easton or Remmers, so it would have been depth, and future starter, most likely just like Hughes. What guard would we have took that was a system fit. True system fit round 1 that was available. I like Daniels as much as everyone, but almost all reports have been he needs to stay at center. Like I said, you don’t draft a need to just draft a need. You draft the best available player at a position of need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 Drafting for need gets you players like Troy Williamson and Christian Ponder. . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTN-93 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Who are some potential IOL free agent options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cearbhall Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Rick Spielman's error wasn't in drafting Hughes over Hernandez or any other offensive lineman if Hughes is the better player. The mistake was not in addressing the offensive line more effectively in the time before the '18 draft going back to when he first was given GM control. The draft should not be counted on for immediate needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Maybe Matt Kalil was a mistake he didn't want to replicate. Staying away from OL in the 1st. Reduced confidence of OL player evaluation. Kalil 5th year option pick up (mistake) & Boone (mistake), maybe contributes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 11 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Drafting for need gets you players like Troy Williamson and Christian Ponder. . Also gets you Harrison Smith, Anthony Barr, etc. This need vs BPA debate is truly tiresome as BPA becomes so subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Also gets you Harrison Smith, Anthony Barr, etc. This need vs BPA debate is truly tiresome as BPA becomes so subjective. The Vikings targeted Smith and made a trade up for him. He was the best player on their board. Same with Barr, he was easily viewed as a top talent player on the board, and many were confused as to why the Vikings would draft a pass rusher after just signing Griffen. In fact, Anthony Barr is a prime example of why you draft the “best player available”. So, while BPA is subjective, it’s very easy to see talent, and the level of that talent. Taking a player who’s clearly at a lower level of talent, simply because they fill a need, is what leads to a lot of draft mistakes. Edited August 10, 2018 by SemperFeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 14 hours ago, NorthCountryEvo said: I say again: does anyone have Berger’s number? He was called. He had no interest in coming out of retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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