SteelKing728 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I love O'Neill but I'd rather see him sit. It takes a while for college Offensive Lineman to grow into NFL players. Rushing him could be disastrous, like it was for TJ Clemmings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: I love O'Neill but I'd rather see him sit. It takes a while for college Offensive Lineman to grow into NFL players. Rushing him could be disastrous, like it was for TJ Clemmings. except for the fact that O'Neill wasn't a defensive lineman convert, and actually looked good in his debut. The technical side of the game wasn't ever really the big problem for O'Neill, the questions were with weight and strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, RpMc said: except for the fact that O'Neill wasn't a defensive lineman convert, and actually looked good in his debut. The technical side of the game wasn't ever really the big problem for O'Neill, the questions were with weight and strength. Yeah but he was a Tight End going into Pitt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Still a blocking position, and again, his technique is relatively refined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 37 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: I love O'Neill but I'd rather see him sit. It takes a while for college Offensive Lineman to grow into NFL players. Rushing him could be disastrous, like it was for TJ Clemmings. He seems to already be better than Clemmings ever was. I think the problem with Clemmings was more mental, as he couldn't adjust to constantly being flipped from side to side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 hours ago, RpMc said: except for the fact that O'Neill wasn't a defensive lineman convert, and actually looked good in his debut. The technical side of the game wasn't ever really the big problem for O'Neill, the questions were with weight and strength. Is Matthews any good anymore? I feel like he could still struggle with stronger pass rushers and he's consistently getting pushed back he could develop some bad habits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, vikesfan89 said: Is Matthews any good anymore? I feel like he could still struggle with stronger pass rushers and he's consistently getting pushed back he could develop some bad habits It wasn't just Matthews he was against; the Packers sent multiple TE or ET stunts his way and he passed them off, handled his guy very nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 i'd keep starting O'Neil. Sink or swim, and he'll only get better with playing time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 9:15 AM, RpMc said: Still a blocking position, and again, his technique is relatively refined. I agree with Steel King. Rushing O'Neill is not a good idea. What's required of a professional lineman as opposed to a college lineman is the same kind of learning curve most quarterbacks face. On the o-line the college game and the pro game are very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 Based on O’Neill’s performance during preseason and against Green Bay, what makes people think that playing him now would be rushing him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Based on O’Neill’s performance during preseason and against Green Bay, what makes people think that playing him now would be rushing him? He was 3rd string in preseason and played well against the Packers who are lacking an outside pass rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 He was second string in the preseason, and he’s currently better than Hill. The only concern with O’Neill that I had was play strength and anchoring. He’s shown ability that suggest he will at least be okay in those areas as a rookie and his feet are elite. How often have our right tackles been abused by stunts the last few years? O’Neill showed the ability to handle them with relative ease last week and in the preseason. the argument that the college game is different than the pro game so he needs more time is a poor one. What about all the other rookie lineman that are playing right now? I guess they’re being rushed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, vikesfan89 said: He was 3rd string in preseason and played well against the Packers who are lacking an outside pass rush 2nd string, but it’s unimportant. O’Neill locked down his side against the competition that he’s been put up against. So, I’ll ask again, what aspect of his game would lead you to believe that he’s being rushed? Or that playing him now would be considered rushing him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: 2nd string, but it’s unimportant. O’Neill locked down his side against the competition that he’s been put up against. So, I’ll ask again, what aspect of his game would lead you to believe that he’s being rushed? Or that playing him now would be considered rushing him? I mostly just think people should pump the brakes on him a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just now, vikesfan89 said: I mostly just think people should pump the brakes on him a bit How is saying he's better than Hill and should be starting because of it getting ahead of ourselves? People are being far too cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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