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6 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

So John Wall will be getting paid the same as 3 NBA MVPs.  

Different CBA, Jordan on the Bulls was also 20 Plus years ago. 

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1 minute ago, turtle28 said:

Different CBA, Jordan on the Bulls was also 20 Plus years ago. 

What are you talking about?  

Why in the world should John Wall make as much money as Steph Curry, Russell Westbrook and James Harden?

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6 minutes ago, turtle28 said:

The Wizards back court is better than the Raptors.

This is HIGHLY debatable.  Lowry and Derozan are great players.  I'd argue Derozan is better than anyone on the Wizards.  

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6 minutes ago, turtle28 said:

Lebron will be retired within the next 5 years and may even leave the Cavs to go play in La or somewhere in the West. When that happens, the Eastern Conference will be wide open as everyone else is about even.

The Celtics and 76ers are way ahead of the Wizards for future projections.  

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22 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

2020 Cap Hit Rankings

 
 
PLAYER
CAP HIT
1 Stephen Curry

Stephen Curry

POINT GUARD
$43,006,362
2 Russell Westbrook

Russell Westbrook

POINT GUARD
$41,006,000
3 John Wall

John Wall

POINT GUARD
$40,824,000
  James Harden

James Harden

SHOOTING GUARD
$40,824,000
5 Blake Griffin

Blake Griffin

POWER FORWARD
$36,810,996
6 Mike Conley

Mike Conley

POINT GUARD
$34,502,130
7 Gordon Hayward

Gordon Hayward

SHOOTING GUARD
$34,187,085
8 Damian Lillard

Damian Lillard

POINT GUARD
$31,626,953
9 C.J. McCollum

C.J. McCollum

SHOOTING GUARD
$29,354,152
10 Andrew Wiggins

Andrew Wiggins

SHOOTING GUARD
$29,290,000

I sense a theme, most of the top paid players are point guards...

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33 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

What are you talking about?  

Why in the world should John Wall make as much money as Steph Curry, Russell Westbrook and James Harden?

I read your post wrong, I thought you said Jordan’s 3 MVPs.

Overall Wall contributes just about the same amount as they do in offensive production when you consider both points and assists.

 

Edited by turtle28

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14 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

The Celtics and 76ers are way ahead of the Wizards for future projections.  

So, we’re 3rd why the is that a bad place to be in the conference? If you’re top 4, you get home court and anything can happen.

Maybe you have amnesia but the Wizards were just a few FGs or defensive stops away from beating the Celtics in the second round of last playoffs and playing in the eastern conference finals. Same with the Hawks a few years before that and the Pacers the year before that and that was mostly because of John Wall!

Why would you give that up to go back to being a team that can’t win over 45 games again led by Beal, Porter and Morris?

Edited by turtle28

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41 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

Ok then the Wizards will forever be the 4-8 seed in the East and will never make the Finals.  

The wizards were 8 minutes from being in the ECF last year. They probably should’ve been in the ECF considering the outrageous calls Boston was getting at home. And they played the Cavs extremely well last year. 

They aren’t as mediocre as they’ve shown this year and a lot of it has to do with Wall being out. And Wall has all the ability to be a league MVP. You’re really selling him short with how good he is. 

And I’ll give you Curry, Harden and Westbrook but he’s better than everyone else on that list. 

Edited by lavar703

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30 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

This is HIGHLY debatable.  Lowry and Derozan are great players.  I'd argue Derozan is better than anyone on the Wizards.  

Not in the playoffs, they’ve both been regular season All-Stars who’ve taken a step back in the playoffs throughout their entire careers.

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9 minutes ago, lavar703 said:

The wizards were 8 minutes from being in the ECF last year. They probably should’ve been in the ECF considering the outrageous calls Boston was getting at home. And they played the Cavs extremely well last year. 

They aren’t as mediocre as they’ve shown this year and a lot of it has to do with Wall being out. And Wall has all the ability to be a league MVP. You’re really selling him short with how good he is. 

Also, I looked up Wall’s amount of offense he contributes to the Wizards and it was about 60 points a game in 2016-17 when he was healthy. 23 points and 11 assists.

Thats actually more than Curry who has contributed 26 points a game since Durant went to GS and 6 assists. At best if all of his assists were 3’s and they’re not, he’d contribute 54 points a game to the GS offense. Then, there’s also the fact that Wall is a better defensive player than Curry.

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41 minutes ago, lavar703 said:

The wizards were 8 minutes from being in the ECF last year. They probably should’ve been in the ECF considering the outrageous calls Boston was getting at home. And they played the Cavs extremely well last year. 

I'll give you that.  That was a weird series.

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1 hour ago, MKnight82 said:

The Celtics and 76ers are way ahead of the Wizards for future projections.  

If Fultz, Embiid and Simmons all miraculously stay healthy, sure. 

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11 minutes ago, lavar703 said:

If Fultz, Embiid and Simmons all miraculously stay healthy, sure. 

You can't really knock the 76ers on health when the Wizards limped through this season.

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6 minutes ago, MKnight82 said:

You can't really knock the 76ers on health when the Wizards limped through this season.

The wizards haven’t lost 3 first overall draft picks to basically their entire rookie seasons because of injuries. We had one player limp through the season - Wall and he still averaged 19 pts & 9 assists- last year that didn’t happen to anyone, but it did happen the last time they didn’t make the playoffs when Beal and Nene both missed about 30 games in the 2015-16 season.

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2 minutes ago, turtle28 said:

The wizards haven’t lost 3 first overall draft picks to basically their entire rookie seasons because of injuries. We had one player limp through the season, last year they didn’t happen, but it did happen the last time they didn’t make the playoffs when Beal and Nene both missed about 30 games in the 2015-16 season.

OK first Embiid wasn't drafted 1st overall.  Second, the 76ers as currently constructed won 52 games this year.  

The Wizards haven't won 50 games in a season since 1978.  

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