turtle28 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Why can’t we find D league players like Brown for Toronto? He’s amazing as one of their last bench players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezy Fanatic Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 We need to find a way to get Bruce Brown and Lonnie Walker IV. It’s our only hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 John Wall high five-ing Drake on his way out after getting his butt kicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, MKnight82 said: He’s far worse than Bruce. Jan Vesely was horrible. Sold the Jordan Clarkson pick. Traded a top 5 pick for Randy Foye and Mike Miller. Drafted Oleksey Pecherov and Jarvis Hayes in the first. Traded a first for Bog. He’s a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, lavar703 said: He’s far worse than Bruce. Jan Vesely was horrible. Sold the Jordan Clarkson pick. Traded a top 5 pick for Randy Foye and Mike Miller. Drafted Oleksey Pecherov and Jarvis Hayes in the first. Traded a first for Bog. He’s a disaster. Bruce Allen traded 3 firsts and a 2nd for a sprinter who couldn't play QB. edit - Also Bruce botched the Cousins free agency so bad. Its the equivalent of the Wizards letting Otto Porter walk for nothing when he was a free agent. Edited April 18, 2018 by MKnight82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 I just don’t understand how this team could go from one of best defensive teams in the nba under Randy Wittman 4 & 5 years ago to one of the worst. The only changes are Ariza and Nene. I know Ariza was a key cog to their defense but it’s just mind boggling to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: Bruce Allen traded 3 firsts and a 2nd for a sprinter who couldn't play QB. My gosh, this can’t be serious Edited April 18, 2018 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 They’re both bad. It’s been settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, turtle28 said: I just don’t understand how this team could go from one of best defensive teams in the nba under Randy Wittman 4 & 5 years ago to one of the worst. The only changes are Ariza and Nene. I know Ariza was a key cog to their defense but it’s just mind boggling to me. Gortat is a shell of what he was then. Morris isn't very good. Porter and Beal are elite scorers but not great defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: Bruce Allen traded 3 firsts and a 2nd for a sprinter who couldn't play QB. edit - Also Bruce botched the Cousins free agency so bad. Its the equivalent of the Wizards letting Otto Porter walk for nothing when he was a free agent. And Ernie has been GM since 2003. There really is no comparison to Ernie’s reign of terror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, MKnight82 said: Gortat is a shell of what he was then. Morris isn't very good. Porter and Beal are elite scorers but not great defenders. Agree on Gortat, he’s really fallen off the last 2 years. Morris is hit or miss on defense, but he’s a good offensive player but on defense he’s not consistent. Beal was starting back then. The main thing is Gortat’s regression and Ariza I guess. Ariza is arguably the best defensive win the NBA and Porter isn’t a horrible defender but there are very few in Ariza’s category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, turtle28 said: Agree on Gortat, he’s really fallen off the last 2 years. Morris is hit or miss on defense, but he’s a good offensive player but on defense he’s not consistent. Beal was starting back then. The main thing is Gortat’s regression and Ariza I guess. Ariza is arguably the best defensive win the NBA and Porter isn’t a horrible defender but there are very few in Ariza’s category. IMO they should move Porter to the 4 full time, dump Morris and Gortat and draft a defensive wing. Then maybe sign a defensive Center in FA to backup Mahinmi, like Nerlens Noel or someone like that. Where they're drafting I think most of the quality Centers will be gone. I think there will be more value taking a defensive wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, lavar703 said: And Ernie has been GM since 2003. There really is no comparison to Ernie’s reign of terror. All I can say is at least Ernie gets to the playoffs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Grunfeld He served as general manager of the New York Knicks of the National Basketball Association from 1989 to 1999 and as the Bucks general manager from 1999 to 2003 then became the president of basketball operations for the Washington Wizards Not a bad resume except he’s never won a championship. He turned all 3 teams into winners. In his 15 years the Wizards have been to the playoffs more times than any other GM I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: IMO they should move Porter to the 4 full time, dump Morris and Gortat and draft a defensive wing. Then maybe sign a defensive Center in FA to backup Mahinmi, like Nerlens Noel or someone like that. Where they're drafting I think most of the quality Centers will be gone. I think there will be more value taking a defensive wing. Is there a European stretch four in the draft who can’t shoot or play defense? That’s who we’ll draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: IMO they should move Porter to the 4 full time, dump Morris and Gortat and draft a defensive wing. Then maybe sign a defensive Center in FA to backup Mahinmi, like Nerlens Noel or someone like that. Where they're drafting I think most of the quality Centers will be gone. I think there will be more value taking a defensive wing. Porter can’t play PF full time. He’s barely over 200 pounds. Theres no way all of the good center prospects will be gone by the time they pick. The draft is loaded with good bigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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