turtle28 Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 10 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Oubre is a good defender when he tries, but he seems lost (just like he did last year in the playoffs). He’s sucked on defense for since March. Brooks talks about how poor his defense has been every time a reporter asks him about Oubre’s shooting slump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Woz said: The Bullets/Wizards under Ernie Grunfeld are almost the textbook definition for mediocre in the NBA. I’d say above average. Meaning, they usually win more than 41 games and have won 4 playoff series and nearly went to the conference finals 3 times. They nearly won 5 more series than they did in the last 15 years. They’ve been better than mediocre except for 09-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 12 hours ago, turtle28 said: I’d say above average. Meaning, they usually win more than 41 games and have won 4 playoff series and nearly went to the conference finals 3 times. They nearly won 5 more series than they did in the last 15 years. They’ve been better than mediocre except for 09-12. In comparison to the rest of the NBA (remember, half of it is basically a wasteland), they're mediocre. You can keep harping on "nearly went" to the conference finals. They didn't. They fell short. Repeating that isn't going to change things. They. are. mediocre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsin2013 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Called in to the Junks this morning and told em Wall's gotta go! Folks mistake Oubre's energy for good defense or offense. No doubt he's energetic. But he takes some really poor shots... and he's overaggressive on defense sometimes. Problem with trading him is we'd have zero youth. That is... unless we traded Wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Skinsin2013 said: Called in to the Junks this morning and told em Wall's gotta go! Folks mistake Oubre's energy for good defense or offense. No doubt he's energetic. But he takes some really poor shots... and he's overaggressive on defense sometimes. Problem with trading him is we'd have zero youth. That is... unless we traded Wall. You’re 100% a DMV fan. Thinks Wall and Ovi are the problems lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsin2013 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, lavar703 said: You’re 100% a DMV fan. Thinks Wall and Ovi are the problems lol And you like star players more than your teams winning games of significance... Edited April 20, 2018 by Skinsin2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Skinsin2013 said: And you like star players more than your teams winning games of significance... I'm curious to hear what you had to say in regards to trading Wall making the team better? Might as well trade Beal too right? Blow it up and start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Skinsin2013 said: And you like star players more than your teams winning games of significance... How does getting rid of the teams best players make the team better? How do you plan on replacing 50 goals a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezy Fanatic Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Skinsin2013 said: Called in to the Junks this morning and told em Wall's gotta go! Folks mistake Oubre's energy for good defense or offense. No doubt he's energetic. But he takes some really poor shots... and he's overaggressive on defense sometimes. Problem with trading him is we'd have zero youth. That is... unless we traded Wall. Were you the guy they gave the Nats tickets to? EDIT - NVM, I'm thinking of Wednesday Edited April 20, 2018 by Jeezy Fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, MikeT14 said: Might as well trade Beal too right? Blow it up and start over Would that be so bad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezy Fanatic Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Honestly, the NBA is stupid. Our only chance of ever winning was landing Durant and we blew it. No other marquee player will ever come here in free agency, so our only prayer is to draft one. May as well hit the tank for the next 5 years and hope something sticks, but we'll probably just end up being the Sacramento Kings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Draper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Tanking in the NBA is the smart move. Not so sure in the NFL yet, but we shall see in a few years with Cleveland. Our problem is if we tank with Moron Brice at the helm we may never be heard from again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsin2013 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, lavar703 said: How does getting rid of the teams best players make the team better? How do you plan on replacing 50 goals a year? Depends on what you get back, no? Tons of star players have been traded... in their primes. The question you ask is, do you see this team winning a Cup with Ovi in the next three years? If not, move on... get what you can... get younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Would that be so bad? I’d rather see what a competent GM could do with Beal and Wall for a couple of seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Doc Draper said: Tanking in the NBA is the smart move. Not so sure in the NFL yet, but we shall see in a few years with Cleveland. Our problem is if we tank with Moron Brice at the helm we may never be heard from again. When you have the NBA equivalent in the form of Ernie Grunfeld, you might be better off staying the course because it can certainly get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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