turtle28 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Here’s what I’d like our lineup to look like this year: PG: Cameron Payne - 13 ppg, 7 asts, 5 rebs, 2 stls Holiday - 10 pts, 4 asts, 3 rebs SG: Beal - 34 ppg, 6 asts, 6 rebs KCP: 10 pts, 2 asts, 3 rebs SF: Rui - 22 pts, 3 asts, 6 rebs Kispert - 10 ppg, 2 asts, 5 rebs Avdija - 8 ppg, 3 asts, 5 rebs PF: Kuzma - 18 pts, 2 asts, 6 rebs Bertans - 13 pts, 2 asts, 4 rebs C : Gafford - 13 ppg, 10 rebs, 3 blks Bryant - 10 ppg, 6 rebs Harrell - 8 pts, 5 rebs Man this is the deepest team we’ve ever had as long as we get a starting PG like Payne or trade for one. Edited July 31, 2021 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Woz Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I had previously said that the best thing that could happen to the Wizards with regards to Russell Westbrook was for him to forgo his player option next year. I didn't think the Wizards had it in them to convert him into multiple players (or future trade pieces) and a first round pick. Have to say, this is the first time I have come into this thread (or its predecessors) and didn't have any way to mock the franchise. That being said, I am not worried that they'll suddenly become a shining franchise. They are, after all, still just the Wizards. They'll find a way to eff this up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Woz said: I had previously said that the best thing that could happen to the Wizards with regards to Russell Westbrook was for him to forgo his player option next year. I didn't think the Wizards had it in them to convert him into multiple players (or future trade pieces) and a first round pick. Have to say, this is the first time I have come into this thread (or its predecessors) and didn't have any way to mock the franchise. That being said, I am not worried that they'll suddenly become a shining franchise. They are, after all, still just the Wizards. They'll find a way to eff this up. They’re still not anything better than a back end of the lottery team but at least now they’re that with younger developing players rather than the previous 4 years when they had a lot of overpaid vets, were cap strapped and still didn’t do any better than the 8th seed. Edited July 31, 2021 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, turtle28 said: They’re still not anything better than a back end of the lottery team but at least now they’re that with younger developing players rather than the previous 4 years when they had a lot of overpaid vets, were cap strapped and still didn’t do any better than the 8th seed. That's probably still true, but there is now a conceivable pathway forward for them to become competitive. Provided they don't offer up stupid contracts like they did with Mahinmi and Bertrans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Woz said: That's probably still true, but there is now a conceivable pathway forward for them to become competitive. Provided they don't offer up stupid contracts like they did with Mahinmi and Bertrans. Definitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MKnight82 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Sounds like they are flipping Kuzma and Harrell to the nets for Spencer dinwiddie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-wizards-likely-acquire-spencer-190025785.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 10 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Sounds like they are flipping Kuzma and Harrell to the nets for Spencer dinwiddie I don’t like that. Dinwiddie coming off an ACL and us trading two good forwards for him is sooo Wizards! God I pray he will be healthy for us! Why don’t we just sign Cameron Payne who’s a better shooter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 10 hours ago, MKnight82 said: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-wizards-likely-acquire-spencer-190025785.html “Fred Katz and Shams Charania of The Athletic: The other pieces from the Westbrook trade, Harrell and Kuzma alone, would not be enough for Brooklyn to accept a Dinwiddie deal, according to a source.” Dinwiddie would be a nice addition to the Wizards as they try to win around Bradley Beal. Before getting hurt, Dinwiddie was playing at a high level. In Kuzma and Harrell, the Nets could get frontcourt depth around their perimeter star trio of James Harden, Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. Washington has also has several other moderately paid players who could fit into the deal. Though Kuzma’s and Harrell’s salaries couldn’t be re-aggregated after the Lakers trade, that deal won’t become official for at least another week. So, that trade could get expanded to include Dinwiddie with Kuzma and Harrell getting rerouted to Brooklyn.” So we could be sending more than just two starting quality forwards in Kuzma & Harrell to the Nets for Dinwiddie. I don’t think we should have to do that. I hope we don’t give up any of our young players we drafted/traded for the last two years. I want to retain Avdija & develop him, and retain Bryant & Gafford at center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, turtle28 said: I don’t like that. Dinwiddie coming off an ACL and us trading two good forwards for him is sooo Wizards! God I pray he will be healthy for us! Why don’t we just sign Cameron Payne who’s a better shooter? @Woz if you're looking to find a way to make fun of the franchise, this is the way here. Harrell and Kuzma to get Dinwiddie coming off the ACL tear? This is a Zardos move we are all type of familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, JoshstraDaymus said: @Woz if you're looking to find a way to make fun of the franchise, this is the way here. Harrell and Kuzma to get Dinwiddie coming off the ACL tear? This is a Zardos move we are all type of familiar with. Yeah, I’d rather keep Kuzma & Harrell and sign a different PG or start Deni at PG. Edited August 1, 2021 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Any thought to not trading for Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball or Dev Graham & re-signing Neto as a back up PG while making Avdija the starting point forward? I know it’s “ideal” for winning now w/ Beal but long term starting Avdija as a point forward to develop him in that role is better for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, turtle28 said: Any thought to not trading for Dinwiddie, Lonzo Ball or Dev Graham & re-signing Neto as a back up PG while making Avdija the starting point forward? I know it’s “ideal” for winning now w/ Beal but long term starting Avdija as a point forward to develop him in that role is better for the team. What is a "point forward?" Also, Deni's also coming off an injury. Do you want to have him recover and learn a whole new responsibility set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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