Crickett Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I could be way off about this thanks to their admitted disinformation campaign, but as far as I can tell, the Giants are really only interested in one quarterback. It's either Sam Darnold or bust. And by bust I mean trade down with the Bills. So I think either the Browns are going to draft Josh Allen (which I wouldn't do, but I'm not running the Browns) and the Giants immediately select Sam Darnold or the Browns draft Sam Darnold and the Giants trade down with the Bills for a king's ransom and take their chances with Eli Manning this year and either Davis Webb or use their now two first round draft picks to try to trade up for a quarterback next year. Which, if the Rams have taught us anything about the draft, is a completely viable strategy. I also took this opportunity to illustrate how wildly divergent I think the draft could go. I am not going to do a write up for every single pick in the first round for two different mock drafts. I'll just say though that the idea that Josh Allen could go number 1 does not reflect my opinion as to whom the top quarterback in this year's draft is. At some point, you have to balance your player ratings with who you think teams will (possibly very very mistakenly) take. If I do another mock (which I expect will only happen if there is a trade between now and the draft), I will almost certainly have the Raiders drafting a linebacker in the first round. It's a very real possibility I haven't taken into account in either mock draft. If there were two teams I felt I have the most difficult time drafting for in this mock, it would be Detroit and Jacksonville. Detroit because I feel as though that is the organization I know the least about and Jacksonville because aside from an immediate replacement starting quarterback, I don't feel like they need very much from a talent perspective. Please let me know if there is a duplicate selection of if there is someone I obviously missed in one of the mock drafts. It's difficult to keep track when working on two at once. Mock #1 - The Browns select Josh Allen, future hall of fame Olympic Javelin Thrower 1. Cleveland Browns – Josh Allen, QB 2. New York Giants – San Darnold, QB 3. New York Jets (from Indianapolis Colts) – Baker Mayfield, QB 4. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans ) – Saquon Barkley, RB 5. Denver Broncos – Josh Rosen, QB 6. Indianapolis Colts (from New York Jets) – Bradley Chubb, DE 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers –- Quenton Nelson, OL 8. Chicago Bears – Marcus Davenport, Edge 9. San Francisco 49ers – Tremaine Edmunds, LB 10. Oakland Raiders – Mike McGlinchey, OT 11. Miami Dolphins – Vita Vea, DT 12. Buffalo Bills (from Cincinnati Bengals) – Calvin Ridley, WR 13. Washington – Roquon Smith, ILB 14. Green Bay Packers – Denzel Ward, CB 15. Arizona Cardinals – Derwin James, S 16. Baltimore Ravens – Isaiah Wynn, OL 17. Los Angeles Chargers – Da’Ron Payne, DT 18. Seattle Seahawks – Josh Jackson, CB 19. Dallas Cowboys – Minkah Fitzpatrick, FS 20. Detroit Lions – Harold Landry, Edge 21. Cincinnati Bengals (from Buffalo Bills) – James Daniels, C 22. Buffalo Bills (from Kansas City Chiefs) –Connor Williams, OL 23. New England Patriots (from Los Angeles Rams) – Kolton Miller, LT 24. Carolina Panthers – Isaiah Oliver, CB 25. Tennessee Titans – Maurice Hurst, DL 26. Atlanta Falcons – Taven Bryan, DT 27. New Orleans Saints – Sam Hubbard, DE 28. Pittsburgh Steelers – Leighton Vanden Esch, ILB 29. Jacksonville Jaguars – Will Hernandez, OL 30. Minnesota Vikings – Lorenzo Carter, OLB 31. New England Patriots – Jaire Alexander, CB 32. Philadelphia Eagles – Rashaan Evans, ILB 33. Cleveland Browns – Carlton Davis, CB 34. New York Giants – Frank Ragnow, C 35. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans) – Brian O'Neill, OT 36. Indianapolis Colts – Derrius Guice, RB 37. Indianapolis Colts (from New York Jets) – Harrison Phillips, DT 38. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Ronald Jones, RB 39. Chicago Bears – Courtland Sutton, WR 40. Denver Broncos – Dallas Goedert, TE 41. New England Patriots (from San Francisco 49ers) – Christian Kirk, WR 42. Miami Dolphins – Mike Gesicki, TE 43. Oakland Raiders – D.J. Chark, WR 44. Washington – Sony Michel, RB 45. Green Bay Packers –D.J. Moore, WR 46. Cincinnati Bengals – Malik Jefferson, LB 47. Arizona Cardinals – Lamar Jackson, QB 48. Los Angeles Chargers – Mike Hughes, CB 49. Indianapolis Colts (from Seattle Seahawks via New York Jets) – Tyrell Crosby, OT 50. Dallas Cowboys – Austin Corbitt, OL 51. Detroit Lions – Ronnie Harrison, S 52. Baltimore Ravens – Michael Gallup, WR 53. Buffalo Bills – Mason Rudolph, QB 54. Kansas City Chiefs – Anthony Averett, CB 55. Carolina Panthers – Justin Reid, S 56. Buffalo Bills (from the Los Angeles Rams) – Donte Jackson, CB 57. Tennessee Titans – Arden Key, Edge 58. Atlanta Falcons – Hayden Hurst, TE 59. San Francisco 49ers – Equamineous St. Brown, WR 60. Pittsburgh Steelers – Jesse Bates, S 61. Jacksonville Jaguars – Mark Andrews, TE 62. Minnesota Vikings – Jamarco Jones, OT 62. New England Patriots – Kyle Lauletta, QB 64. Cleveland Browns (from the Philadelphia Eagles) – Deon Cain, WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Mock #2 - The hopes and dreams of the Bills front office come true. 1. Cleveland Browns – Sam Darnold, QB 2. Buffalo Bills (from New York Giants) – Josh Rosen, QB 3. New York Jets (from Indianapolis Colts) – Baker Mayfield, QB 4. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans ) – Bradley Chubb, DE 5. Denver Broncos – Josh Allen, QB 6. Indianapolis Colts (from New York Jets) – Saquon Barkley, RB 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers –- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB 8. Chicago Bears – Quenton Nelson, OL 9. San Francisco 49ers – Marcus Davenport, Edge 10. Oakland Raiders – Denzel Ward, CB 11. Miami Dolphins – Tremaine Edmunds, LB 12. New York Giants (from Cincinnati Bengals via Buffalo) – Calvin Ridley, WR 13. Washington – Vita Vea, NT 14. Green Bay Packers – Roquon Smith, ILB 15. Arizona Cardinals – Jaire Alexander, CB 16. Baltimore Ravens – Courtland Sutton, WR 17. Los Angeles Chargers – Derwin James, S 18. Seattle Seahawks – Ronald Jones, RB 19. Dallas Cowboys – Da’Ron Payne, DT 20. Detroit Lions – Derrius Guice, RB 21. Cincinnati Bengals (from Buffalo Bills) – Josh Jackson, CB 22. New York Giants (from Kansas City Chiefs via Buffalo) – Leighton Vanden Esch, ILB 23. New England Patriots (from Los Angeles Rams) – Mike McGlinchey, OT 24. Carolina Panthers – Ronnie Harrison, S 25. Tennessee Titans – Harold Landry, OLB 26. Atlanta Falcons – Christian Kirk, WR 27. New Orleans Saints – Lamar Jackson, QB 28. Pittsburgh Steelers – Jesse Bates, S 29. Jacksonville Jaguars – Dallas Goedert, TE 30. Minnesota Vikings – Conner Williams, OL 31. New England Patriots – Carlton Davis, CB 32. Philadelphia Eagles – Isaiah Wynn, OL 33. Cleveland Browns – Kolton Miller, LT 34. New York Giants – Sony Michel, RB 35. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans) – Isaiah Oliver, CB 36. Indianapolis Colts – Rashaan Evans, LB 37. Indianapolis Colts (from New York Jets) – Taven Bryan, DT 38. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Nick Chubb, RB 39. Chicago Bears – Sam Hubbard, Edge 40. Denver Broncos – Justin Reid, S 41. New England Patriots (from San Francisco 49ers) – Lorenzo Carter, OLB 42. Miami Dolphins – Mike Gesicki, TE 43. Oakland Raiders – Malik Jefferson, LB 44. Washington – James Daniels, OL 45. Green Bay Packers – Mike Hughes, CB 46. Cincinnati Bengals – Frank Ragnow, C 47. Arizona Cardinals – Maurice Hurst, DL 48. Los Angeles Chargers – M.J. Stewart, CB 49. Indianapolis Colts (from Seattle Seahawks via New York Jets) – Brian O’Neill, OL 50. Dallas Cowboys – Will Hernandez, OL 51. Detroit Lions – Hayden Hurst, TE 52. Baltimore Ravens – Martinas Rankin, OL 53. Buffalo Bills – D.J. Moore, WR 54. Kansas City Chiefs – Arden Key, Edge 55. Carolina Panthers – Jerome Baker, LB 56. New York Giants (from the Los Angeles Rams via Buffalo) – Josh Sweat, Edge 57. Tennessee Titans – Harrison Phillips, DL 58. Atlanta Falcons – Tim Settle, DT 59. San Francisco 49ers – D.J. Chark, WR 60. Pittsburgh Steelers – Mason Rudolph, QB 61. Jacksonville Jaguars – Tyrell Crosby, OT 62. Minnesota Vikings – Uchenna Nwosu, OLB 62. New England Patriots – Kyle Lauletta, QB 64. Cleveland Browns (from the Philadelphia Eagles) – Anthony Averett, CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 With the first mock, don't love it for the Vikings. I don't see them drafting an OLB that early this year. I don't know who I'd precisely want them to take though, that's a less than ideal way for it to shake out. Lamar Jackson is actually kind of tempting oddly enough. Or it would likely be a spot where the Vikings could trade down with a team that wants Jackson, I doubt Jackson falls to the middle of round two. Second draft, OL is good with the first pick. I'd be very interested in Averett at CB over OLB. Also, I think the Steelers are meant to be drafting Mason Rudolph, the QB, not signing Mason Crosby and turning him into a QB from K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crickett Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 Thank you for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlucas12002 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The first Browns draft is better than the second one, but if you change either 35 or 64 to whoever your highest-rated DT is, either one would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog2372 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I’ll take option 1 for the Bucs. Switch Fitz to James in option 2 and I’ll take that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I would love draft 1 for the Steelers. Meh at draft 2 because of Rudolph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtnldave Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Crickett said: I could be way off about this thanks to their admitted disinformation campaign, but as far as I can tell, the Giants are really only interested in one quarterback. It's either Sam Darnold or bust. And by bust I mean trade down with the Bills. So I think either the Browns are going to draft Josh Allen (which I wouldn't do, but I'm not running the Browns) and the Giants immediately select Sam Darnold or the Browns draft Sam Darnold and the Giants trade down with the Bills for a king's ransom and take their chances with Eli Manning this year and either Davis Webb or use their now two first round draft picks to try to trade up for a quarterback next year. Which, if the Rams have taught us anything about the draft, is a completely viable strategy. I also took this opportunity to illustrate how wildly divergent I think the draft could go. I am not going to do a write up for every single pick in the first round for two different mock drafts. I'll just say though that the idea that Josh Allen could go number 1 does not reflect my opinion as to whom the top quarterback in this year's draft is. At some point, you have to balance your player ratings with who you think teams will (possibly very very mistakenly) take. If I do another mock (which I expect will only happen if there is a trade between now and the draft), I will almost certainly have the Raiders drafting a linebacker in the first round. It's a very real possibility I haven't taken into account in either mock draft. If there were two teams I felt I have the most difficult time drafting for in this mock, it would be Detroit and Jacksonville. Detroit because I feel as though that is the organization I know the least about and Jacksonville because aside from an immediate replacement starting quarterback, I don't feel like they need very much from a talent perspective. Please let me know if there is a duplicate selection of if there is someone I obviously missed in one of the mock drafts. It's difficult to keep track when working on two at once. Mock #1 - The Browns select Josh Allen, future hall of fame Olympic Javelin Thrower 1. Cleveland Browns – Josh Allen, QB 2. New York Giants – San Darnold, QB 3. New York Jets (from Indianapolis Colts) – Baker Mayfield, QB 4. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans ) – Saquon Barkley, RB 5. Denver Broncos – Josh Rosen, QB 6. Indianapolis Colts (from New York Jets) – Bradley Chubb, DE 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers –- Quenton Nelson, OL 8. Chicago Bears – Marcus Davenport, Edge 9. San Francisco 49ers – Tremaine Edmunds, LB 10. Oakland Raiders – Mike McGlinchey, OT 11. Miami Dolphins – Vita Vea, DT 12. Buffalo Bills (from Cincinnati Bengals) – Calvin Ridley, WR 13. Washington – Roquon Smith, ILB 14. Green Bay Packers – Denzel Ward, CB 15. Arizona Cardinals – Derwin James, S 16. Baltimore Ravens – Isaiah Wynn, OL 17. Los Angeles Chargers – Da’Ron Payne, DT 18. Seattle Seahawks – Mike Gesicki, TE 19. Dallas Cowboys – Minkah Fitzpatrick, FS 20. Detroit Lions – Harold Landry, Edge 21. Cincinnati Bengals (from Buffalo Bills) – James Daniels, C 22. Buffalo Bills (from Kansas City Chiefs) –Connor Williams, OL 23. New England Patriots (from Los Angeles Rams) – Kolton Miller, LT 24. Carolina Panthers – Josh Jackson, CB 25. Tennessee Titans – Maurice Hurst, DL 26. Atlanta Falcons – Taven Bryan, DT 27. New Orleans Saints – Sam Hubbard, DE 28. Pittsburgh Steelers – Leighton Vanden Esch, ILB 29. Jacksonville Jaguars – Will Hernandez, OL 30. Minnesota Vikings – Lorenzo Carter, OLB 31. New England Patriots – Isaiah Oliver, CB 32. Philadelphia Eagles – Rashaan Evans, ILB 33. Cleveland Browns – Carlton Davis, CB 34. New York Giants – Frank Ragnow, C 35. Cleveland Browns (from Houston Texans) – Brian O'Neill, OT 36. Indianapolis Colts – Derrius Guice, RB 37. Indianapolis Colts (from New York Jets) – Harrison Phillips, DT 38. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Ronald Jones, RB 39. Chicago Bears – Courtland Sutton, WR 40. Denver Broncos – Dallas Goedert, TE 41. New England Patriots (from San Francisco 49ers) – Christian Kirk, WR 42. Miami Dolphins – Hayden Hurst, TE 43. Oakland Raiders – D.J. Chark, WR 44. Washington – Sony Michel, RB 45. Green Bay Packers –D.J. Moore, WR 46. Cincinnati Bengals – Malik Jefferson, LB 47. Arizona Cardinals – Lamar Jackson, QB 48. Los Angeles Chargers – Mike Hughes, CB 49. Indianapolis Colts (from Seattle Seahawks via New York Jets) – Tyrell Crosby, OT 50. Dallas Cowboys – Austin Corbitt, OL 51. Detroit Lions – Ronnie Harrison, S 52. Baltimore Ravens – Michael Gallup, WR 53. Buffalo Bills – Mason Rudolph, QB 54. Kansas City Chiefs – Anthony Averett, CB 55. Carolina Panthers – Justin Reid, S 56. Buffalo Bills (from the Los Angeles Rams) – Donte Jackson, CB 57. Tennessee Titans – Arden Key, Edge 58. Atlanta Falcons – Martinas Rankin, OL 59. San Francisco 49ers – Equamineous St. Brown, WR 60. Pittsburgh Steelers – Jesse Bates, S 61. Jacksonville Jaguars – Mark Andrews, TE 62. Minnesota Vikings – Jamarco Jones, OT 62. New England Patriots – Kyle Lauletta, QB 64. Cleveland Browns (from the Philadelphia Eagles) – Deon Cain, WR If Dallas goes secondary with their first pick I am DONE with that team. 46 years pi$$ed away. They have traveled that road for 20 years now and they still SUCK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_Bengal_Fl Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Mock 1: Change Jefferson to Reid and I like it more. Mock 2 give us McG at 21 and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgers0821 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Packers draft #2 is amazing...#1 isn't bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 The first one is fantastic for the Steelers. One of the best possible outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 For Cincy,... In the first one, great pick with Daniels, but I don't like jesfferson in the second, or at all really. As someone said above, Reid would work there. But honestly, I would be very tempted if Lamar Jackson is still there at #46. I'd also strongly consider Price for RG or Orlando Brown for RT In the second one, I'm grabbing Wynn in the first, and keeping the ragnow pick in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Both of those mocks for the Jags are beautiful. Mock #1 would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zgrande Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Just out of curiosity, why did you switch the Browns pick at 4? In both your scenarios, Barkley and Chubb are there, yet you switched the pick. Just for fun? Or do you really think it depends on which QB they draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 LOVE both mocks. Ridley, Williams, Rudolph and Jackson is quite the haul. However, Rosen and Moore in round 2 seems like a steal and a deadly combo in the making. Would be happy either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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