beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 I was fairly underwhelmed with how that went but you can bet your *** I'm going to root for these kids to click. I'm also going to take time away from HF because, it's hilarious how they respond. When you have a differing opinion from the flawless experts, you apparently haven't watched these kids. I flat out came out and said, in my rankings, that the production and shot were great for Holtz, but there's more to it than just that. He didn't wow me anywhere else. He's not a playmaker. He doesn't drive play at all. He's not the greatest skater (not bad, not great) and he's just an underwhelming selection at 7. People always say "don't draft for need" but when you come out against the pick, that's the first thing they fall back on. It's just a toxic friggin' place to post. Everyone knows everything and there's no positive discussion. Sure, there's value to a 30 goal scorer with an elite shot but it's also okay to want others in that range. I'd prefer an all around player there and then take the goal scorers later. I mean, they are all trying to compare him to Laine but, yet, Winnipeg is trying to trade Laine. What gives? I'll live and I'll hope that Castron got it all right but I'm 1000% allowed to have my opinions on things. I spent a **** ton of time watching these guys but keyboard warriors that piggyback off others and take what others say try to slam you for having a different opinion. If Holtz has a single bad shooting year, he's not chipping in 50 points. It's that simple. We potentially took someone that'll have Palmieri like production at #7. You're allowed to be underwhelmed by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Forge said: A child because I said terrible.... That place. Holy hell See my last post. I'm probably done posting over there. I'll just read **** and laugh at the clowns rather than joining the circus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 I'm gonna laugh when Graeme Clarke is better than Holtz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 But, and you can bet your ***, if Holtz busts, I'm gonna pop my cocky *** back in there and request formal apologies and I'm gonna name names. Bookmarking that damn thread, most definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Thinking about Mukhamadullin's profile, I'm 100% sure that we wanted Kaiden Guhle. They are almost identical in style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Thinking about Mukhamadullin's profile, I'm 100% sure that we wanted Kaiden Guhle. They are almost identical in style. Another reason I have no interest in Mukhamadullin. We are literally so stacked on the left side with these guys. Vukojevic, Bahl, Misyul, Mukhamadullin, Okhotyuk. They are all very similar....though Muk probably has the best shot by a good margin. But it is weird to have wanted Schneider than flipped to Muk. Would have made more sense to draft Barron at that juncture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, beekay414 said: I'm gonna laugh when Graeme Clarke is better than Holtz. I wouldn't bank on it, but in truth it's not theoretically impossible. And I'm super high on Clarke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Forge said: I wouldn't bank on it, but in truth it's not theoretically impossible. And I'm super high on Clarke Not banking on it at all. I just think Clarke might fit better with Nico than Holtz would. My feeling is, we're expecting Hughes to take off as our #1 C by the time Holtz is ready and then they'll be 2/3 of our top line. Then it becomes who plays with Nico? I don't think Mercer fits and I think he ends up as our 3rd line C after Zajac retires. So, based on what we have right now... Foote-Hughes-Holtz Bratt-Hischier-Clarke ???-Mercer-??? Edited October 7, 2020 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 I mean, if our plan at 18 was to take a 3rd line C, I'm glad it was Mercer and not Zary, at least. I'm fine with the Mercer pick. It's the other two that I'm going to have to come around on. I've calmed a bit and moved onto the acceptance stage but I'm still not thrilled. We better nail day 2 tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Forge said: Another reason I have no interest in Mukhamadullin. We are literally so stacked on the left side with these guys. Vukojevic, Bahl, Misyul, Mukhamadullin, Okhotyuk. They are all very similar....though Muk probably has the best shot by a good margin. But it is weird to have wanted Schneider than flipped to Muk. Would have made more sense to draft Barron at that juncture. Well, we've been desperate for LHD so we might be overcompensating at this point. We may be planning on our RHD being the offensive dmen with the left side being the defensive anchors. That's the only thing I can take from how we've drafted lately, especially if we plan on Smith eventually playing on the right. Bahl-Smith Mukhamadullin-Severson Misyul-Walsh With Vuko and Okhotyuk being further darts at the board. EDIT - Actually, with Misyul extending in Russia, you'd think Okhotyuk would get that shot first. So... Bahl-Smith Mukhamadullin-Severson Okhotyuk-Walsh Edited October 7, 2020 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Not banking on it at all. I just think Clarke might fit better with Nico than Holtz would. My feeling is, we're expecting Hughes to take off as our #1 C by the time Holtz is ready and then they'll be 2/3 of our top line. Then it becomes who plays with Nico? I don't think Mercer fits and I think he ends up as our 3rd line C after Zajac retires. So, based on what we have right now... Foote-Hughes-Holtz Bratt-Hischier-Clarke ???-Mercer-??? I really want a grinder with Hughes. We need someone who can rub guys out on the boards and go get loose pucks. Not sure that is Foote. Maybe that is a guy we get in FA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I can't believe that we didn't trade at all lol. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Forge said: I really want a grinder with Hughes. We need someone who can rub guys out on the boards and go get loose pucks. Not sure that is Foote. Maybe that is a guy we get in FA So??? ???-Hughes-Holtz Bratt-Hischier-Clarke Foote-Mercer-??? Or maybe they feel that Mercer can play the left side and be that grinder type? I have no clue lol. This draft has my head spinning. EDIT - And I'm slotting Clarke in with Bratt-Hischier because they need a shooter on that line. I guess you could feasibly play Bratt on the right and slot Foote with them instead. Edited October 7, 2020 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Forge said: I can't believe that we didn't trade at all lol. Wow. I don't think there were options. The only teams that traded were metro teams and they probably weren't willing to make the move with another metro team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Oh...I forgot we have McCarthy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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