beekay414 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 If we were to trade him, I'd try to get the Kings to pony up. I'd take 19 and a few prospects from their deep *** talent pool. 19 and Brandt Clarke or Brock Faber would be the starting point for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Forge said: It 100% would have to involve Caufield, despite Montreal fans saying he's untouchable. I'm not sure how much more we would be able to squeeze out of them though. He's been very productive since coming up, and it's really just the brutal start to last season (3 pts, all assists, in his first 15 games). After that he ran at a .8 PPG clip in 16 minutes a game. Before that he had 12 point in 20 playoff games and 5 in 10 regular season games. He's a legit point producer. Like, I think there's a good chance that he's 85% - 90% of Alex Debrincat with more team control and salary value. I don't think we would do that straight up, but I don't think we'd get a ton over top of him. The question is whether we should be entertaining that or if we would. Like damn that lineup would be small. What does DeBrincat do significantly better? They look extremely similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Rainmaker90 said: What does DeBrincat do significantly better? They look extremely similar He's basically the established version of one of Caufield's best outcomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, beekay414 said: What does he mean by "significant" because Ryan has flatly stated the sides have been in talks. I'm not even sure what it would take to get him. There hasn't been money discussed, according to Ryan, so I'd imagine that it is. They have touched base some back and forth, but they haven't actually discussed dollar figures. I definitely think money needs to be discussed before you can consider it serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Forge said: There hasn't been money discussed, according to Ryan, so I'd imagine that it is. They have touched base some back and forth, but they haven't actually discussed dollar figures. I definitely think money needs to be discussed before you can consider it serious How do you have extension talks without discussing money? Like do they just go "do you you want to be here? Okay cool, how many years you looking for? Okay, ttyl." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Forge said: He's basically the established version of one of Caufield's best outcomes That’s what I was thinking. I really like Caufield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Forge Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Him getting moved only makes sense in a true hockey trade and I don't think that there is anything like that really available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, Forge said: Him getting moved only makes sense in a true hockey trade and I don't think that there is anything like that really available The only thing I could see is, if Johnny Hockey doesn't extend in Calgary, Bratt+ for Tkachuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, beekay414 said: The only thing I could see is, if Johnny Hockey doesn't extend in Calgary, Bratt+ for Tkachuk. I thought of that too. Or, if we make a move for Cat or Caufield or Johnny Hockey...I could see Bratt being moved for composition purposes, but I have no idea what would be an option out there for it. Timo for Bratt? They get to reset that winger contract with Bratt taking something like 4x6, we get a guy who I think may be excited to extend with us to stick with Nico. I mean, I could kind of see that? Tkachuk. Maybe a goalie? I think its a pretty limited scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Forge said: I thought of that too. Or, if we make a move for Cat or Caufield or Johnny Hockey...I could see Bratt being moved for composition purposes, but I have no idea what would be an option out there for it. Timo for Bratt? They get to reset that winger contract with Bratt taking something like 4x6, we get a guy who I think may be excited to extend with us to stick with Nico. I mean, I could kind of see that? Tkachuk. Maybe a goalie? I think its a pretty limited scenario Yeah, it would require a lot of moving parts. Maybe they foresee more contentious negotiations on the money side after the last talks and they're just doing their due diligence on the trade market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Yeah, it would require a lot of moving parts. Maybe they foresee more contentious negotiations on the money side after the last talks and they're just doing their due diligence on the trade market? Yeah, if the previous negotiating had gone smoothly I wouldn't be concerned. The fact that they went not ideally makes me unable to completely dismiss it. Bratt has some power. He's arbitration eligible and two years from ufa. I could see term being a real issue if the last negotiation left a sour taste in his mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Forge said: Yeah, if the previous negotiating had gone smoothly. The fact that they went not ideally makes me unable to completely dismiss it. Bratt has some power. He's arbitration eligible and two years from ufa. I could see term being a real issue if the last negotiation left a sour taste in his mouth Sure, pretty much see it the same way. Not completely brushing off the rumors but just don't see a realistic path that doesn't involve a futures only trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 If Tampa wants to resign palat, I'd put in a call and see if we can get killorn kind of cheap. Only one year in his deal, still playing at a solid level, perfect style of player for this team and has the culture and experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 Nichushkin is exactly what we need but I don't think we'll pay him what he's going to get on the market. Could see us going after Burakovsky tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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