bruceb Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Dogbite said: D is close to being dominant but we need 3 more pieces in the 2 of which must be from the Top 50 of the draft? We are either close to being dominant or 3 key pieces away we cannot be both at the same time. Huh? Not sure where you got 3 from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, bruceb said: Huh? Not sure where you got 3 from. A more athletic corner roaming Free safety pass rushing specialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbite Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, bruceb said: Huh? Not sure where you got 3 from. 2 of the next 4 and a FA signing is how your statement looked to me. I would say we need one more high profile player. Everything else we need can be found in the middle rounds or the budget week of free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, brownie man said: A more athletic corner roaming Free safety pass rushing specialist This would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Dogbite said: 2 of the next 4 and a FA signing is how your statement looked to me. I would say we need one more high profile player. Everything else we need can be found in the middle rounds or the budget week of free agency. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Not usually the one to toot my own horn. Toot toot heh heh. But I do remember saying both Goff and Wentz were cant miss back in the day. Cough cough cheap tooting my own horn drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said: Not usually the one to toot my own horn. Toot toot heh heh. But I do remember saying both Goff and Wentz were cant miss back in the day. Cough cough cheap tooting my own horn drivel. So what do you say now about Darnold and Rosen, or some other QB that we can get in the 2018 draft, oh wise one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, bruceb said: So what do you say now about Darnold and Rosen, or some other QB that we can get in the 2018 draft, oh wise one? Truthfully? Way too early to say. I try telling people to not let one game determine who’s who. I try telling people wait till all the information is in to make a take. It’s too early to say at this time. As I say every year about this time, I will let you know come about a week before the draft. I can let you in on my early favorites. But it is fluid until draft time. As to the “oh wise one”? False flattery will get you nowhere. I don’t need any participation trophies. I grew up in a much more just get it done era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said: Truthfully? Way too early to say. I try telling people to not let one game determine who’s who. I try telling people wait till all the information is in to make a take. It’s too early to say at this time. As I say every year about this time, I will let you know come about a week before the draft. I can let you in on my early favorites. But it is fluid until draft time. As to the “oh wise one”? False flattery will get you nowhere. I don’t need any participation trophies. I grew up in a much more just get it done era. Well, you were tooting your own horn, and did not issue any kind of a disclaimer that past results should not be interpreted as any claims as to of future results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, bruceb said: Well, you were tooting your own horn, and did not issue any kind of a disclaimer that past results should not be interpreted as any claims as to of future results. Your meaning is lost. What exactly do you want? Did I not say it’s too early to say with any qb so far? Do you want me to go back and gloat about who I was dead on about? Seems quite boring to me. Because nobody really cares. Hit me up mid April I can hook you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 No QB this year is as good at being a quarterback as this guy is at what he does I have to have him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Here's what I'd do: Take a QB at #1...whoever you designate as the man. I like Darnold still, but I haven't caught much USC this year. Then trade back up to #2 and take Saquon. #1--Sam Darnold QB USC #2--Saquon Barkley RB Penn State 2nd--MJ Stewart CB North Carolina 2nd--Adonis Alexander CB/S Virginia Tech 2nd--(traded for Barkley) 3rd--Braxton Berrios WR Miami Fl. 3rd--Donnie Miles SS North Carolina 4th--(traded for Barkley) 5th--Skai Moore OLB South Carolina 6th--Josey Jewel MLB Iowa 7th--Austin Proehl WR North Carolina FA--Jarvis Landry WR FA--Avery Williamson MLB FA--Jeremiah Attaochu DE QB: Darnold/Kizer/Kessler RB: Barkley/Johnson/Dayes FB: Vitale WR: Gordon/Coleman/Landry/Berrios/Louis/Coates/Proehl TE: Njoku/DeValve/Telfer LT: Thomas/Banner LG: Bitonio/Martin C: Tretter/Reiter RG: Zeitler/Drango RT: Coleman/Johnson LE: Ogbah/Nassib DT: Shelton/Ogunjobi/Meder/Coley/Brantley RE: Garrett/Attaochu WLB: Kirksey/Moore MLB: Schobert/Williamson/Jewel SLB: Collins/Burgess CB: McCourty/Stewart/Boddy-Calhoun/Taylor/Wilson FS: Peppers/Alexander SS: Kindred/Miles K: Gonzales P: Colquitt KR: Barkley/Berrios PR: Peppers/Berrios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 hours ago, bruceb said: This would be ideal. And I would like to address at least 2 of those needs in FA instead of the draft. Especially the speed rusher since they take longer to develop and we dont have another 2 years of waiting for a 2nd round pass rusher to develop given how Orchard/Nassib have slowly progressed. I dont want to try to plug all the holes with high draft picks that take 2-3 years to fully become the impact player you drafted. Jacksonville got this good because they had draft talent like Fowler/Ramsey/Fournette/Robinson but also went on a FA spending spree. They really went out and got: Tashaun Gipson Berry Church AJ Bouye Malik Jackson Marcell Dareus Calais Campbell They emptied the bank to essestially NY Yankees 'buy' a great defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcanadian Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: Here's what I'd do: Take a QB at #1...whoever you designate as the man. I like Darnold still, but I haven't caught much USC this year. Then trade back up to #2 and take Saquon. #1--Sam Darnold QB USC #2--Saquon Barkley RB Penn State 2nd--MJ Stewart CB North Carolina 2nd--Adonis Alexander CB/S Virginia Tech 2nd--(traded for Barkley) 3rd--Braxton Berrios WR Miami Fl. 3rd--Donnie Miles SS North Carolina 4th--(traded for Barkley) 5th--Skai Moore OLB South Carolina 6th--Josey Jewel MLB Iowa 7th--Austin Proehl WR North Carolina FA--Jarvis Landry WR FA--Avery Williamson MLB FA--Jeremiah Attaochu DE QB: Darnold/Kizer/Kessler RB: Barkley/Johnson/Dayes FB: Vitale WR: Gordon/Coleman/Landry/Berrios/Louis/Coates/Proehl TE: Njoku/DeValve/Telfer LT: Thomas/Banner LG: Bitonio/Martin C: Tretter/Reiter RG: Zeitler/Drango RT: Coleman/Johnson LE: Ogbah/Nassib DT: Shelton/Ogunjobi/Meder/Coley/Brantley RE: Garrett/Attaochu WLB: Kirksey/Moore MLB: Schobert/Williamson/Jewel SLB: Collins/Burgess CB: McCourty/Stewart/Boddy-Calhoun/Taylor/Wilson FS: Peppers/Alexander SS: Kindred/Miles K: Gonzales P: Colquitt KR: Barkley/Berrios PR: Peppers/Berrios I have a couple of problems with your draft, but not with the 2 ones. I think we need to be realistic and so IMO, we can no longer count on Thomas, we need his replacement now, because he could retire at any moment. I also do not want to depend on Gordon, so I would draft 2 more WR's in this draft, to absolutely give Darnold reliable targets. Potentially at least, there is a real opportunity to put out an offense that could dominate in 2 or 3 years. Leave the top picks for offense this draft and use the top picks for defense in the 2019 draft, then potentially, you have fixed both sides of the ball and could have a SB contending team by 2020. Teams that are rebuilding and try to fix both sides of the ball at the same time, usually fail in their rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Can Anyone tell me why Lamar Jackson isn’t a top ten pick? I see a very talented passer before you even factor in his ability to run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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