beekay414 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, GSUeagles14 said: in all honesty, do you think these are good posts? theyre not factual and i have no interest in your opinion on the difference between unconscious and stunned. Say it with me... "I have no idea what I'm talking about" It's okay. You'll live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Buckrock101 said: You want additional shots to be landed before stopping that fight. Right? Since you think it shouldn't be stopped off that one right hand alone. Yet the dude went down stiff, he got up disoriented. That's a Ko, and that should be a stoppage. You're basing a lot of this off of Jairzinho walking away. That doesn't reverse the fact that Overeem just got knocked out and the fight is over. He got knocked down. Not knocked out. In order to be knocked out you must be by definition out. Defenseless. He was not defenseless. He stood back up immediately. Had he had something to defend and failed to do so, that would’ve been different. He had nothing to defend because dude walked away. That’s why that is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) here's something I didn't know existed until rn marcelo garcia slicing thru askren like butter on the ground could've made some people some money w/ this v maia Edited December 8, 2019 by 11sanchez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DaveDX said: He got knocked down. Not knocked out. In order to be knocked out you must be by definition out. Defenseless. He was not defenseless. He stood back up immediately. Had he had something to defend and failed to do so, that would’ve been different. He had nothing to defend because dude walked away. That’s why that is important. Yep. I won't argue he was at risk. The argument is whether that was a walkoff and it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, DaveDX said: He got knocked down. Not knocked out. In order to be knocked out you must be by definition out. Defenseless. He was not defenseless. He stood back up immediately. Had he had something to defend and failed to do so, that would’ve been different. He had nothing to defend because dude walked away. That’s why that is important. He was out. The way he fell, he was out. He came to when he hit the fence, you see that all the time. But his head was still not there, and it's irresponsible to let the fight continue after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: You don't know **** about combat sports because you've never experienced it. That much is for certain. Dont speak on what you don't know. Do us all a favor and go to bed. Nobody is itching to read your responses. bro, in all seriousness, get that brown paper bag and relax. what are you even talking about at this point. that because youve been in a fight you get to decide what being unconscious is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Yep. I won't argue he was at risk. The argument is whether that was a walkoff and it wasn't. Right. If Acuña knocks it deep and stands to look at it, is that a homer, even if it doesn’t clear the fence? I mean, he treats it like one, so it is one, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Unconsciousness is a state which occurs when the ability to maintain an awareness of self and environment is lost. It involves a complete or near-complete lack of responsiveness to people and other environmental stimuli Stunned is defined as a state of being shocked, overwhelmed or rendered immobile ThEsE PoStS aRe NoT fAcTuAl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GSUeagles14 said: bro, in all seriousness, get that brown paper bag and relax. what are you even talking about at this point. that because youve been in a fight you get to decide what being unconscious is? No. Its that you don't know what the **** unconscious is but you're parading around here like you're an intellectual lol. And I'm drinking a beer, chilling in my hotel suite. I'm calm as ****. I'm sorry that you're only response when you're rendered silent is to try to attack the person you're talking to. Just walk away at this point. It's okay to be wrong. Edited December 8, 2019 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Unconsciousness is a state which occurs when the ability to maintain an awareness of self and environment is lost. It involves a complete or near-complete lack of responsiveness to people and other environmental stimuli Stunned is defined as a state of being shocked, overwhelmed or rendered immobile ThEsE PoStS aRe NoT fAcTuAl Take your own advice. Leave him be. Reem either got screwed or fixed. Either way, the sport is tainted. Edited December 8, 2019 by DaveDX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Unconsciousness - complete lack of near complete lack of responsiveness Stunned - being rendered immobile Yep. I'm the idiot here. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DaveDX said: Take your own advice. Leave him be. I know. I know. I'm a sucker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Unconsciousness is a state which occurs when the ability to maintain an awareness of self and environment is lost. It involves a complete or near-complete lack of responsiveness to people and other environmental stimuli Stunned is defined as a state of being shocked, overwhelmed or rendered immobile ThEsE PoStS aRe NoT fAcTuAl definition of unconscious is having lost consciousness. Per meriam dictionary. By definition overeem was unconscious. As has already been said multiple times, doesnt matter how long he was unconscious for. i suppose you could be knocked unconscious and also stunned at the same time, depending on how you interpret stunned, but the unconscious part is simply fact. Really basic stuff here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, GSUeagles14 said: definition of unconscious is having lost consciousness. Per meriam dictionary. By definition overeem was unconscious. As has already been said multiple times, doesnt matter how long he was unconscious for. i suppose you could be knocked unconscious and also stunned at the same time, depending on how you interpret stunned, but the unconscious part is simply fact. Really basic stuff here. Lol you're so damn dense. I imagine you're a hit at parties. If he we're unconscious, he wouldn't react. He reacted. End of story lol. Good God. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Unconsciousness - complete lack of near complete lack of responsiveness Stunned - being rendered immobile Yep. I'm the idiot here. Lol. why do i have to explain this. You can be unconscious for one second or 10 minutes, regardless of the length of time it doesnt change that you were not conscious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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