buddy_z34 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 16 hours ago, bcb1213 said: if we are doing top five for me Flair HBK Savage Savage was a legend totally forgot about him. Great ring work and mic work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy_z34 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 The reason i left out Hogan, Thesz, Bruno and Andre was because of the question that was posed was in terms of ring skills, mic skills, storylines, anything and everything. I looked at each category evenly. Wrestling contributions (Bruno, Hogan and Andre) to me dont carry more weight than ring skills or mic skills. I looked at each category evenly. The older guys besides Hogan an Flair had no mic skills. They werent asked to put on wrestling clinics inside the ring. Modern wrestling and the older generation of territories just cant be compared to one another. That is why my list is comprised of talents in the modern era of wrestling. I could of put Hogan on my list but i left him out and put in Rocky as to me Rock had better in ring skills and without the massive ego that Hogan carried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 @The LBC have you been aware of this tiger club merch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARROTHEAD Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, buddy_z34 said: The reason i left out Hogan, Thesz, Bruno and Andre was because of the question that was posed was in terms of ring skills, mic skills, storylines, anything and everything. I looked at each category evenly. Wrestling contributions (Bruno, Hogan and Andre) to me dont carry more weight than ring skills or mic skills. I looked at each category evenly. The older guys besides Hogan an Flair had no mic skills. They werent asked to put on wrestling clinics inside the ring. Modern wrestling and the older generation of territories just cant be compared to one another. That is why my list is comprised of talents in the modern era of wrestling. I could of put Hogan on my list but i left him out and put in Rocky as to me Rock had better in ring skills and without the massive ego that Hogan carried. I think youre wrong on so much of that. Thesz was a ring technician, he created more moves, including near all suplexes there is today. Think you underestimate what these guys went through during their HOUR-2 hour long matches they held. It was hard for me to leave off Argentina Rocca. If you think todays guys have ring skills. Rocca could jump off the top turnbuckle, would grab a guy by the ear WITH HIS TOES, roll and fling the guy across the ring. Hed also standing in front a guy, shoot his foot up, grab their ear, and slam their face into the mat. Insane ability. He was so popular at one point, they stuck him in a Superman Comic, and he beat up Superman. You can say poor mic skills. But when they spoke, people tuned in to watch. The Golden Age was called that for a reason. People were glued to everything they did, be it a match or when speaking. Talking a country of 200 million, and 10% of the entire population was tuned in watching. When half that didnt own TVs. First "Main Event" episode drew 33 million thanks to Hogan Piper and Andre. Since their era, the most tuned in was 9 million, 1 time. HBKs prime was 10 years after Hogan and Piper helped bring in 33 million viewers to a show. 1995 WWE had about a 2.2 rating avg with HBK at the top and WCW starting to kick their tail weekly. Edit to say. Im not judging your picks. Theyre fine. Just the perception of these older guys that built the industry on the backs of their talent and skill alone. Edited September 27, 2018 by PARROTHEAD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 On 9/22/2018 at 7:19 AM, Ketchup said: I’m going to need some context on this. That was legit one of the funniest wrestling promos I’ve ever seen. ric flair was head of a faction called Fortune w/ styles, beer money, christopher daniels & kazarian i think at the time. hulk hogan made jay lethal GM for a week and lethal made crazy matches involving them. then eric bischoff (sp) got mad and put him in a handicap match against beer money and he won. that started the fued between him and the group iirc. i think hogan was face at the time and gave lethal flair's HOF ring, which led to that encounter. that was the beginning of like a year long fued, which one of the best fueds of all time tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 On 9/27/2018 at 10:05 AM, PARROTHEAD said: I think youre wrong on so much of that. Thesz was a ring technician, he created more moves, including near all suplexes there is today. Think you underestimate what these guys went through during their HOUR-2 hour long matches they held. It was hard for me to leave off Argentina Rocca. If you think todays guys have ring skills. Rocca could jump off the top turnbuckle, would grab a guy by the ear WITH HIS TOES, roll and fling the guy across the ring. Hed also standing in front a guy, shoot his foot up, grab their ear, and slam their face into the mat. Insane ability. He was so popular at one point, they stuck him in a Superman Comic, and he beat up Superman. You can say poor mic skills. But when they spoke, people tuned in to watch. The Golden Age was called that for a reason. People were glued to everything they did, be it a match or when speaking. Talking a country of 200 million, and 10% of the entire population was tuned in watching. When half that didnt own TVs. First "Main Event" episode drew 33 million thanks to Hogan Piper and Andre. Since their era, the most tuned in was 9 million, 1 time. HBKs prime was 10 years after Hogan and Piper helped bring in 33 million viewers to a show. 1995 WWE had about a 2.2 rating avg with HBK at the top and WCW starting to kick their tail weekly. Edit to say. Im not judging your picks. Theyre fine. Just the perception of these older guys that built the industry on the backs of their talent and skill alone. I had to throw this a like, particularly since you edited in the last bit. I think people take for granted that without Superstar Billy Graham, you probably don't have the same Hulk Hogan that everyone is familiar with (especially heel/nWo Hogan because he harked back A TON to SSBG - along with, let's be real, the real Hulk Hogan). There's a good case to argue that Ric Flair might have eventually become the Ric Flair that we all know, but without Buddy Rogers and Jackie Fargo, there's a decent shot that Ric Flair isn't the Ric Flair so many are familiar with and love(d). In that same vein, Lawler has a legitimate case for being ranked considerably higher than most people put him. He was a total package (ring worker, promo, and booker) who was one of the first guys to really break pro wrestling into the mainstream. And that ignores a number of guys (both American and not) who went to Japan, were incredibly over there, came back and were incredibly over here and who flat out influenced an entire segment of highly-influential guys in the industry: Bruiser Brody (basically defined "big man style"), Giant Baba, Don Leo Jonathan, Gorilla Monsoon (I'm a little hesitant to put him in there because you can see an obvious influence of DLJ in his ring work), etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_Flux Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 "The Strangler" Ed Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Your match is non title Roman, that'll show you who is boss. Forgetting the fact hes been helping ziggler these past few weeks but I'm sure he wouldnt want a title match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 LMAOOO Elias struck a nerve with the Seattle crowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc_vikingfan Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) The Elias basketball comment in Seattle is probably the biggest crowd reaction(excluding a wrestler return) I've heard in years Edited October 2, 2018 by dc_vikingfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livewire Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 That was terrific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 As much as I dislike Bayley, Alicia Fox is worse. Ugh she is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANNNNNOYING, and not in a good in her role annoying, she’s just awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 hours ago, dc_vikingfan said: The Elias basketball comment in Seattle is probably the biggest crowd reaction(excluding a wrestler return) I've heard in years He should have mentioned the Mariners playoff drought too. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 ya'll ever notice sparkplug holly looks like jerry seinfeld's identical twin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 8:41 PM, pollino14 said: The dumbest way I’ve ever seen them try to get heat on someone. I don't even think that looks like Jerry Seinfeld, outside of the hair. Maybe the eyebrows, a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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