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SPEED MOCK: Vikings OTC

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  1. 1. Who do the Vikings Pick?

    • Kolton Miller
      2
    • Frank Ragnow
      22
    • Billy Price
      6
    • Brian O'Neill
      0
    • Rashaan Evans
      1
    • Sam Hubbard
      0
    • Lorenzo Carter
      0
    • Mike Hughes
      0
    • Derrius Guice
      0
    • Dallas Goedert
      9
    • Hayden Hurst
      1
    • Courtland Sutton
      0
    • Christian Kirk
      0
  2. 2. Given this situation would you prefer a trade down?

    • Yes
      28
    • No
      13

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  • Poll closed on 04/27/2018 at 12:00 AM

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Secondary question as well, given how our mock shaked out, who would you draft, but also, would you trade down in this situation?

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I personally would take Kolton Miller in this scenario, but certainly would be willing to trade down if someone wanted to trade up to get Rashaan Evans before the Patriots would. 

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I have about 6 or 7 names I would like in this situation. Having said that, yes I'd trade down.

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Miller and Goedert were the two I debated between personally. I picked Goedert, but I'd lean towards trading down. Ragnow is also interesting for me in this situation, but as @Klomp says there are a number of players I'd consider, so trading down seemed like the best option.

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Voted for Ragnow, it really depends on how far we are trading down. If it is early 2nd 33-40, I'd probably be OK with it.

*I voted no on the trade down.

Edited by VikeManDan
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2 minutes ago, VikeManDan said:

Voted for Ragnow, it really depends on how far we are trading down. If it is early 2nd 33-40, I'd probably be OK with it.

I'd say when I voted for trade down, it was because there were a number of players I wanted, so I assumed it would be a trade down that worked well for the Vikings. We're not talking about trading down to the end of round two and picking up an extra fourth or some other bad deal for the Vikings.

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Want nothing to do with Miller, as I don't trust the current coaching staff to be able to work with his technical issues (and there are a few). With this staff's coaching record, better taking a technically sound offensive line project.  If you want a project tackle, someone like Brandon Parker could be had later.

Edited by rpmwr19

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Why do folks want Miller? There is nothing about his tape or the coaching staff's track record that suggest that he is going to be able to utilize his athleticism in the NFL.

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I'd trade down.

My top 3:

1. Ragnow

2. Goedert (OL with next pick)

3. Price.

 

There are a few guys that I think would be too much of a reach at 30 or early round 2 (Kirk, Hurst, Hubbard, O'Neil)

 

Kolton Miller is the only guy I would really not like.

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i'd trade down 2-4 spots, then take Dallas Goedert or Frank Ragnow, in that order.

CLE should be willing to trade, let's troll them.

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13 minutes ago, vike daddy said:

i'd trade down 2-4 spots, then take Dallas Goedert or Frank Ragnow, in that order.

CLE should be willing to trade, let's troll them.

33 and 35 for 30, BOOM we get Ragnow and another player.

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4 minutes ago, VikeManDan said:

33 and 35 for 30, BOOM we get Ragnow and another player.

Spielman loves controlling the first pick of a trading day, because all the phone calls come to him.

Edited by vike daddy

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55 minutes ago, JDBrocks said:

Why do folks want Miller? There is nothing about his tape or the coaching staff's track record that suggest that he is going to be able to utilize his athleticism in the NFL.

 

Then why draft any OL?  According to that logic, no OL that they will draft will ever progress, so why bother?  Even if they are "ready" to start day 1 and "technically sound", unless they improve, they'll probably be out of the league in 4-5 years or be barely competent, ala Matt Kalil.     

Really, I'm not a huge fan of any of the players available, Ragnow included...therefore, I'm going to bank on the high upside guy. 

My first preference would be to trade down in this scenario, because all of the guys on the list are 2nd round talent, as far as I'm concerned.   

Edited by disaacs

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Voted yes on the trade down, Ragnow, Price, Harrison Phillips, and Nathan Shepherd would be my top 4 targets depending on how far they'd fall down

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Draft what you can teach, and sign what you can't.  This Vikings haven't been able to draft and develop tackles, so they signed two (three if you count Hill). Ragnow has as much upside as Miller does along with already really good technique to match his ability in space; just because his perceived floor is higher, doesn't mean the potential ceiling is also lower.

Solidifying the interior of the offensive line for a QB like Cousins is as important as the tackle position; if your interior can create a pocket, your tackles can cheat inside and just force the edge rushers outside and up the field.

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