wackywabbit Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 I'm partial to LJ8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordinator0 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, wackywabbit said: I'm partial to LJ8. I still can't believe the Ravens actually took him. Doesn't happen often that we hype up an exciting prospect and the organization agrees with that hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, coordinator0 said: I still can't believe the Ravens actually took him. Doesn't happen often that we hype up an exciting prospect and the organization agrees with that hype. I'm still in shock there's a thread in NFL Gen about one of our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Darth Pees said: I'm still in shock there's a thread in NFL Gen about one of our players. There’s a thread in NFL Gen? Brb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 hours ago, coordinator0 said: I still can't believe the Ravens actually took him. Doesn't happen often that we hype up an exciting prospect and the organization agrees with that hype. Well I don't know about you guys but..... Last year was the first time they took one of my hypelings . It started with ol' "Raven5255"(Sucks he doesn't post anymore) turning me on to JJ Watt and it ended with Cyprien The Great being passed over for bum Elam. After that I vowed never to hype again but, "Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in". After not playing that game for 3 years I had to return and stumble upon our budding superstar. http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=582093&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225 - Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:25 am "This would be my ideal at this point. Round 1: Marlon Humphrey CB- I believe in him as a future shutdown, his intensity, swagger and ability in the run game is too much. Could easily play safety as well, NFL pedigree will bring him extra looks as a prospect from the Ravens as will the Bama lineage. " http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=582093&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=300 "Humphrey is another 20er who really seems like he could be the pick, for almost all the same reasons just defensively. He truly has the feel of a future shutdown in the process of evolution. Like in the Matrix how at some point when Neo is training with Morph everything just starts to slow down, he can see everything. The mistakes stop, and his limitless potential takes over. He sheds blocks like a linebacker, has great recovery speed, is athletically aware in a superior way like Reed and Berry. Short memory, has grown and grown technically, alpha mentality and swagger. Can easily play either safety spot strong or free, that is how physical, athletic, and reactive he is. He makes little mistakes at times that need to be ironed out but that's what makes a prospect a prospect." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm starting to think most people have only watched Lamar Jackson's highlights....... Dummies out there really think we're going to bench a $20 mill QB for a rookie simply because he's a 1st rounder, even if it's to our "projects" detriment. Short of another injury, there's no reason to believe Flacco won't perform at his highest level in a long time. A way better surrounding cast, offensive line, and a new fire placed under him for motivation in a sort of contract year. MM has a better gel/understanding going with Flacco, the running game will only take another step forward, I'm not worried in the slightest. Short of Lamar making huge unprecedented strides and or Flacco really making an issue about a more team favorable contract after this season, the goal has to be Jackson 2020 maybe even 2021 if Flacco's play really elevates. Slow cooking our young beast and hopefully getting some win now playoff magic from our playoff dragon is our franchise's best bet. There will be no package that involves Flacco being displaced imo, he won't want it and in the end the team won't either. It could stir up trouble and risk injury to both players if it's some odd play. What could happen is Lamar getting involved with the Wolfpack on special teams and threatening teams that way. Fear of a direct snap to him on a punt or kick could be palpable. Once preseason hits and fans and onlookers see how raw Jackson is they'll understand. It isn't that he can't win games for us, because he can, it's how much better he can function and continue to grow as a QB while Flacco starts. I honestly think everyone will get the situation pretty early on into the season. Jackson's supporters want him to succeed and will understand the benefits of him not starting, even the dumbest ones. Decosta, Ozzie, and Harbaugh aren't soft with stuff like this and neither is Biscotti. We aren't the Browns, no amount of "Sports Joe" or media pressure is going to get them to f this situation up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian Raven Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 hours ago, DreamKid said: I'm starting to think most people have only watched Lamar Jackson's highlights....... Dummies out there really think we're going to bench a $20 mill QB for a rookie simply because he's a 1st rounder, even if it's to our "projects" detriment. I think it's more that some people know that throwing him in too soon could ruin his career, and they want to see it happen. Either because they don't like the player, they don't like the Ravens, or they just want to gloat over some prediction they made. Some of the comments in that thread are exactly the line of thinking dumb organisations have followed in the past, and they're exactly the line of thinking that has some teams picking at the top of the draft, year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danand Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 7 hours ago, DreamKid said: I'm starting to think most people have only watched Lamar Jackson's highlights....... Dummies out there really think we're going to bench a $20 mill QB for a rookie simply because he's a 1st rounder, even if it's to our "projects" detriment. Short of another injury, there's no reason to believe Flacco won't perform at his highest level in a long time. A way better surrounding cast, offensive line, and a new fire placed under him for motivation in a sort of contract year. MM has a better gel/understanding going with Flacco, the running game will only take another step forward, I'm not worried in the slightest. Short of Lamar making huge unprecedented strides and or Flacco really making an issue about a more team favorable contract after this season, the goal has to be Jackson 2020 maybe even 2021 if Flacco's play really elevates. Slow cooking our young beast and hopefully getting some win now playoff magic from our playoff dragon is our franchise's best bet. There will be no package that involves Flacco being displaced imo, he won't want it and in the end the team won't either. It could stir up trouble and risk injury to both players if it's some odd play. What could happen is Lamar getting involved with the Wolfpack on special teams and threatening teams that way. Fear of a direct snap to him on a punt or kick could be palpable. Once preseason hits and fans and onlookers see how raw Jackson is they'll understand. It isn't that he can't win games for us, because he can, it's how much better he can function and continue to grow as a QB while Flacco starts. I honestly think everyone will get the situation pretty early on into the season. Jackson's supporters want him to succeed and will understand the benefits of him not starting, even the dumbest ones. Decosta, Ozzie, and Harbaugh aren't soft with stuff like this and neither is Biscotti. We aren't the Browns, no amount of "Sports Joe" or media pressure is going to get them to f this situation up. I actually don't think he is that raw. The flaws he has however demands a lot of correction, and he has to do something about his feet in the pocket, which most likely demand a complete retooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 7 hours ago, DreamKid said: Short of another injury, there's no reason to believe Flacco won't perform at his highest level in a long time. A way better surrounding cast, offensive line, and a new fire placed under him for motivation in a sort of contract year. This sounds like literally any other year in the past 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Danand said: I actually don't think he is that raw. The flaws he has however demands a lot of correction, and he has to do something about his feet in the pocket, which most likely demand a complete retooling. I agree that he's not that raw. He can play right now. And sure he's got real flaws like his short pass accuracy is probably never going to be as good as Josh Rosen's. But he's got some elite skills right now and is more than capable as a thrower. It's not what I or the Ravens want, but he could absolutely lead a very good offense right now. The Eagles designed a great offense for Nick Foles. There are no excuses for offensive coordinators. You don't have to be a genius to make a system work for Lamar. It's not that he has to sit, it's that he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 22 hours ago, wackywabbit said: I'm partial to LJ8. Yeah, I think that’s for sure his main moniker, kind of like Iverson’s main moniker was AI. It’s quick and easy, but his hype name was The Answer. Lamar is going to be too exciting a player to not have a hype name. MJ to Air Jordan to his Airness. My top two candidates. 1. “The Human Torch”. That way it encompasses both his running ability (blazing fast) and his arm talent (torching defenses). 2. The Fifth Element... because it sounds awesome.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 hours ago, wackywabbit said: I agree that he's not that raw. He can play right now. And sure he's got real flaws like his short pass accuracy is probably never going to be as good as Josh Rosen's. But he's got some elite skills right now and is more than capable as a thrower. It's not what I or the Ravens want, but he could absolutely lead a very good offense right now. The Eagles designed a great offense for Nick Foles. There are no excuses for offensive coordinators. You don't have to be a genius to make a system work for Lamar. It's not that he has to sit, it's that he can. ???? Well said. This is where I’m at. I think he could come in and probably go for something like 3000 yds, 15 TDs passing and 1000 yds and 10 TDs rushing right out the gate. But given time to develop, he would be much more fundamentally sound and probably go for 4000 yds, 25 TDs passing and 750 yds, 5 TDs rushing. Perhaps more in an MVP type season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'm really glad our interior line depth is as strong as it is. Lamar got killed often times with his line collapsing against talented fronts like NCSU and FSU. Even our second string line is capable on the inside so he should feel comfortable during pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamKid Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Danand said: I actually don't think he is that raw. The flaws he has however demands a lot of correction, and he has to do something about his feet in the pocket, which most likely demand a complete retooling. That's called being raw. Even technically sound QBs benefit from sitting a year instead of being thrown to the fire. Letting him sit for two to grow physically as well as technically sounds great to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Not a bad point that he could use the year or two just to get buff and ready to absorb some hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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